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Should Security CCs receive a nerf to NLR/Lose the ability to Enter HCZ?  

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  1. 1. Should Security CCs receive a nerf to NLR/Lose the ability to Enter HCZ?

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On 7/11/2020 at 1:56 PM, Giovanni said:

An alternative to this is to remove their ability to enter HCZ/EZ and act as if they are an MTF with a 2 minute NLR. Security CCs have not been doing their job as security, and instead are taking MTF's job, while also doing it better, as they spawn in LCZ, which can be a better position, say midway through a CI raid, so CI are across the facility from MTF, and only have 2 minutes of NLR. Either Security CCs should have to do their job as security and stay in LCZ, instead of being MTF with 2 minute NLR, or have their NLR adjusted to 3 minutes.

This , in my opinion would solve most fo the issues that arise with these CC's , They paid to be security Not MTF
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1 hour ago, pixelated pancakes said:

This , in my opinion would solve most fo the issues that arise with these CC's , They paid to be security Not MTF
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mhmm but RCF, and EZ is only SCMD so they shouldn't be there anyway, most of the time.

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+Support for changing NLR from 2 minutes to 3 minutes for Gensec CCs to see if this makes things more balanced.

  • Simple Solution to implement
  • Doesn't change any of the paid options for the CC
  • Gives a needed nerf to the CCs
  • Will make the most people happy as a compromise
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I honestly can agree with this, while most other MTF/CI CC's have some sort of an excuse being OP as they are military like branches. It honestly doesn't make sense that a random security guard  has military grade tech

that being said, a three minute NLR timer increase would make them more balanced without actually changing the CC's themselves.

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I have had experiences where there are A TON of Nu7 on to feed scp's and we are halfway to LCZ when a security cc pulls up and does our job for us. It is Nu7's job to feed scp's not security. Same with CI raids their job is to defend d block not go to HCZ and assist us at all especially when there is a ton of MTF on to deal with it.

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BIG -SUPPORT

Coming from Security here is why:

  • Security has something called RCF basically a sub-branch of Security that are like MTF, and removing access to HCZ would not be fair for any CC that would wanna be like RCF.
  • RCF have Tranqs because again they are like MTF, and removing this from CCs to have this would be unfair.
  • RCF in Security have access to good weapons so why can't CCs?
  • Security Heavies have access to good weapons so why can't CCs?
  • Security should be able to defend their self a little, not saying they should do your job, just saying they should be able to help.
  • And the list goes on someone fill free to quote this and give more reasons.

 I understand from a MTF side of things this may look like a good idea but, from a core of Security side of thinks this would be devastating if pasted.

besides the main idea of this, I feel the NLR nerf would be a good change.

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11 minutes ago, TheCloaker said:

BIG -SUPPORT

Coming from Security here is why:

  • Security has something called RCF basically a sub-branch of Security that are like MTF, and removing access to HCZ would not be fair for any CC that would wanna be like RCF.
  • RCF have Tranqs because again they are like MTF, and removing this from CCs to have this would be unfair.
  • RCF in Security have access to good weapons so why can't CCs?
  • Security Heavies have access to good weapons so why can't CCs?
  • Security should be able to defend their self a little, not saying they should do your job, just saying they should be able to help.
  • And the list goes on someone fill free to quote this and give more reasons.

 I understand from a MTF side of things this may look like a good idea but, from a core of Security side of thinks this would be devastating if pasted.

besides the main idea of this, I feel the NLR nerf would be a good change.

 

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29 minutes ago, drago89115 said:

 

 

39 minutes ago, TheCloaker said:

BIG -SUPPORT

Coming from Security here is why:

  • Security has something called RCF basically a sub-branch of Security that are like MTF, and removing access to HCZ would not be fair for any CC that would wanna be like RCF.
  • RCF have Tranqs because again they are like MTF, and removing this from CCs to have this would be unfair.
  • RCF in Security have access to good weapons so why can't CCs?
  • Security Heavies have access to good weapons so why can't CCs?
  • Security should be able to defend their self a little, not saying they should do your job, just saying they should be able to help.
  • And the list goes on someone fill free to quote this and give more reasons.

 I understand from a MTF side of things this may look like a good idea but, from a core of Security side of thinks this would be devastating if pasted.

besides the main idea of this, I feel the NLR nerf would be a good change.

 

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I'm half and half, I don't see why they should be limited to LCZ, but if they are patrolling/taking the role of Nu7, they deserve a punishment. I have not seen a single CC enter HCZ and feed SCPs for Nu7. The main security CCs I see are in D-block.  Also adding one minute NLR will help tremendously. Instead of having them not enter HCZ, let them escort. If anyone catches a CC feeding or just patrolling HCZ, then you get someone else to do a punishment. Don't limit CCs when they are  doing a security job. Security patrol and keep D-block in check. That's why I think if CCs are patrolling HCZ they should get punished, if they are escorting, no.  That effects other CCs that don't try and feed SCPs. Why limit security CCs when they should be doing security, this sounds like something security should deal with and talk about.

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On 7/14/2020 at 11:25 AM, CanOBeanz said:

+Support for changing NLR from 2 minutes to 3 minutes for Gensec CCs

  • Simple Solution to implement
  • Doesn't change any of the paid options for the CC
  • Gives a needed nerf to the CCs

 

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+support there no reason the need to be in HCZ. There CC can do MTF job better then MTF can. raiding on CI will end with a gensec CC crushing you 

not trying make anyone mad i just dont feel they need to be in HCZ 

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legit was playing as 076-2, i was locked in temp Euclid because of Jays big brain, not a single soul knew i was there (which is another thing to go over) and rainbow calls MTF down to Temp Euclid because "funny sword man" which is  valid, but there was a Gensec CC there to help them kill me

 

if it does get enforced, force the gensec that want to help to get on the designated job (RCF)

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+ Support  GENSEC CC's with their tankyness hold down D-block on their own , their nice to see but not fight against ever 2 mins i think +support on the NLR )  -supportnot on the ability to enter HCZ EZ), command or CPls still needa be in the HCZ for certain stuff of course not take other branches job thats no go, (Unless MTF ask for their assistance)

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