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Jack (utility one)

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What are you suggesting? - I am suggesting that a non-combatant RoE is added to the rules under foundation staff. The rule I am requesting is that "Non-combatants (research, utility) are only able to shoot an enemy if shot upon, hit, attacked in any form or fashion as well as being cuffed,  or threatened by a weapon (while not under fearRP)."

How would this change better the server? - This is the rule of thumb around non-combatants that only shoot if shot at but I've also been told and taught that you can attack if you feel threatened. That rule is extremely broad and makes things confusing towards CI and D-class. What is the border of feeling threatened or not, how can you staff that issue if all the player has to say is "I felt threatened." and the person gets off scot free. This would also add this rule "only shoot if shot at." in the MOTD it self instead word to word or branch rules and would make things a lot simpler. 

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - I don't see any besides making RDM harder as it removes this excuse. (this is for those RDM'ers out there)

Who would this change mostly benefit? - non-combatants, CI, D-class or any other "enemies" 

Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - nope.

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1 hour ago, Hope said:

+support

The current rules of RoE is extremely broad, would really like it updated to the current standards.

 

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1 hour ago, Hope said:

+support

The current rules of RoE is extremely broad, would really like it updated to the current standards.

 

 

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+ support
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10 hours ago, Forehead man [GL] said:

+/- support

- while I see  the reason to add this so people dont just do " he looked at me funny", if you see ci coming up to you about to cuff your ass, you bet your ass you would try to shoot them regardless if they shot you

This happened to me before, they tried to cuff me so I just pulled out a shotgun. I think there should be exceptions.

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I would say an acception to CI but sometimes they don't shoot and they will complain. I'm trying to avoid complaints and arguments, I will add being cuffed as a reason to attack...but I feel the reasons I said would cover that but I will add it.

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On 7/11/2020 at 12:15 PM, Hope said:

+support

The current rules of RoE is extremely broad, would really like it updated to the current standards.

 

 

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+Support 

I like the idea, and I think it can stop a lot of confusion and frustration. 

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On 7/11/2020 at 1:15 PM, Hope said:

+support

The current rules of RoE is extremely broad, would really like it updated to the current standards.

 

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On 7/12/2020 at 3:41 PM, Jack (utility one) said:

I would say an acception to CI but sometimes they don't shoot and they will complain. I'm trying to avoid complaints and arguments, I will add being cuffed as a reason to attack...but I feel the reasons I said would cover that but I will add it.

The best system, in my opinion, is that if you aren’t under fearRP and someone is threatening you with a weapon (ie a d-class with a knife saying “open this door or I’ll stab you!”) would qualify as a threat. So the rule should be, being shot at, cuffed, or threatened by a weapon (while not under fearRP). Otherwise I’d say +support

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On 7/11/2020 at 10:49 AM, Ritz said:

+Support

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