wolphin Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Steam Name: TwizKirigaya SteamID: STEAM_0:1:511677233 Ingame Name: TwizKury Ban Length: 2 week Admin that Banned you: Inaccurate Reason for Ban: MRDM, FailRP, NLR Dispute: What happened: So basically, I was playing on Research, and I was bum rushed by 2-4 d class. After I respawned, I opened the door (not to leave, just to witness what was going on) and almost immediately, I was fired at by one of the d-class (which in itself is FailRP, since I was still in bunks), which I fired back at the them, and died doing so (note that i NEVER left bunks during any of this). Then, when I respawned, 2 d-class came INTO research bunks and began firing at me, which i died again. At this point, I was just done, so I started firing at them, in which they tried to leave, but I was able to kill them before they got out of my FOV from the bunks. Then like 5 minutes later, I hopped off. 1. MRDM It wasn't in itself RDM, as I was defending myself. 2. FailRP Although yes, I was shooting out of spawn, they were IN spawn to begin with, and firing at me, so i'm sure that in itself is enough of a warrant for me to fire at them. 3. NLR This one is weird to me. Each time I spawned in, they were either a) firing at me b) in bunks So how is that NLR? Plus, IIRC, spawns are OOC areas, which i'm pretty sure NLR doesn't apply in that case. 1 might be a furry but might also not be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Inaccurate Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 I was not the one to issue the warning, the ban was done by the request of Dang/Zeus. @[GL] Zeus "Pay increase declined. Welcome to the Foundation, get used to it." -O5-6 3rd time Head of Medical Staff | Ex-Director of Research and Security | Ex-Director of Utility | Ex-Senior Admin for SCP-RP | Ex-Admin for TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
October Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 -support At the moment I’m going to remain a -support into more evidence is provided. All you’ve offered is your side with nothing to back it up. Shooting out of spawn is failRP and you should’ve just closed the door so they can’t shoot you. If the d-class were truly shooting at you in spawn then just call staff as breaking the rules to defend yourself doesn’t change the fact that you broke the rules. You also have over 20 warns, and in my previous experiences with you you have mingey tendencies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dang Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 I only made the ban request for Zeus, so I was not involved with this offence/admin sit so zeus should have the answers for the appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogieeeeeee Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, October said: -support At the moment I’m going to remain a -support into more evidence is provided. All you’ve offered is your side with nothing to back it up. Shooting out of spawn is failRP and you should’ve just closed the door so they can’t shoot you. If the d-class were truly shooting at you in spawn then just call staff as breaking the rules to defend yourself doesn’t change the fact that you broke the rules. You also have over 20 warns, and in my previous experiences with you you have mingey tendencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) So basically, I was on d class vibing when I heard about Twizkury Getting on Rig and RDMing, he was shot by one d class and killed every one in the vicinity. Not to mention you shot from bunks which made a d class run into your bunks to kill you. You very clearly had the chance to close the door and move back which is what you should have done instead you kept shooting. The NLR was valid when you died multiple times, came out of bunks and shot and switching jobs doesn’t mean you can avoid NLR. The part that even caused me to ask for a ban request was just you laughing when you were shooting the d class and just when we were about to bring you to a sit, you disconnected, seems a bit too convenient doesn’t it Also no proof to back up his claims Also opening the door to see what’s happening without exiting spawn constitutes metagame and you would run into bunks after getting shot. 2 hours ago, wolphin said: , I opened the door (not to leave, just to witness what was going on) Edited July 5, 2020 by [GL] Zeus 1 Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Inaccurate Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 -Support No real proof for the ban being invalid. "Pay increase declined. Welcome to the Foundation, get used to it." -O5-6 3rd time Head of Medical Staff | Ex-Director of Research and Security | Ex-Director of Utility | Ex-Senior Admin for SCP-RP | Ex-Admin for TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolphin Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, [GL] Zeus said: So basically, I was on d class vibing when I heard about Twizkury Getting on Rig and RDMing, he was shot by one d class and killed every one in the vicinity. Not to mention you shot from bunks which made a d class run into your bunks to kill you. You very clearly had the chance to close the door and move back which is what you should have done instead you kept shooting. The NLR was valid when you died multiple times, came out of bunks and shot and switching jobs doesn’t mean you can avoid NLR. The part that even caused me to ask for a ban request was just you laughing when you were shooting the d class and just when we were about to bring you to a sit, you disconnected, seems a bit too convenient doesn’t it Also no proof to back up his claims Also opening the door to see what’s happening without exiting spawn constitutes metagame and you would run into bunks after getting shot. I attempted to kill the d-class that shot me, but then every single other one got in the way, and then proceeded to fire at me. and they ran into bunks after i died the first time, and thats when i started to kill them. and i'm not going to close the door because if I do, the d-class would have been stuck inside bunks?? i didn't exit bunks, as i said i was inside of bunks the entire time. and I switched jobs before the d-class came inside, so i dont see the argument there. and how does that count as metagame? i'm not "gaining" any form of rp knowledge, so how is that metagame? and i was laughing at the dclass because they were all just rushing in trying to kill me, so i mean 1 might be a furry but might also not be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Boekhom Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 3 hours ago, October said: -support At the moment I’m going to remain a -support into more evidence is provided. All you’ve offered is your side with nothing to back it up. Shooting out of spawn is failRP and you should’ve just closed the door so they can’t shoot you. If the d-class were truly shooting at you in spawn then just call staff as breaking the rules to defend yourself doesn’t change the fact that you broke the rules. You also have over 20 warns, and in my previous experiences with you you have mingey tendencies. Chad of many names Professional Shit talker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 3 hours ago, October said: -support At the moment I’m going to remain a -support into more evidence is provided. All you’ve offered is your side with nothing to back it up. Shooting out of spawn is failRP and you should’ve just closed the door so they can’t shoot you. If the d-class were truly shooting at you in spawn then just call staff as breaking the rules to defend yourself doesn’t change the fact that you broke the rules. You also have over 20 warns, and in my previous experiences with you you have mingey tendencies. 17 minutes ago, wolphin said: and how does that count as metagame? If you died, why would you need to go to the doorway to see what's happening in the first place? You just died, so there would be no reason for you to check anything because you wouldn't know about any D-Class or they were out there. Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogs Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 hours ago, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support No real proof for the ban being invalid. "The first draft of everything is Shit" - Ernest Hemingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, wolphin said: I attempted to kill the d-class that shot me, but then every single other one got in the way, and then proceeded to fire at me. and they ran into bunks after i died the first time, and thats when i started to kill them. and i'm not going to close the door because if I do, the d-class would have been stuck inside bunks?? i didn't exit bunks, as i said i was inside of bunks the entire time. and I switched jobs before the d-class came inside, so i dont see the argument there. and how does that count as metagame? i'm not "gaining" any form of rp knowledge, so how is that metagame? and i was laughing at the dclass because they were all just rushing in trying to kill me, so i mean I’m guessing it was all a big coincidence that all the other class D ran into your bullets. Going off of what Gunther said, you used it to see who is outside bunks, which you really don’t have to worry about as you are a non combatant but you clearly don’t care about the non combatant part as you shot everyone in the vicinity. You have no reason to be looking out of bunks and you gathered info on d class outside, i.e You gathered info in an ooc area. If you worried the d class would have been bunks, we have staff for a reason. And even if they were stuck, you were shooting them inside spawn either way so idk how this makes any difference. Not to mention shooting out of spawn and saying it’s an ooc area so NLR isn’t valid. I don’t even think I need to say why that’s false. The shooting out of bunks was valid. The NLR was valid and your FailRP was valid. Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack (utility one) Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 -support There is no evidence to support your side and with your history and reputation I don't see any valid reason to take your side of the story unless clear evidence is provided. There are gods in Alabama: Jack Daniel's, high school quarterbacks, trucks, big tits, and also Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 -Support You're in the wrong here Was Nu7 2LT Shot Once Was a Nu7 MSGT also was a CI Captain once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BrickHead Posted July 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2020 If you don’t wanna read Zeus's Essay here is a summary (I was 1 of the D class there) 1. You killed D class not out of self defense which is a rule that Researchers need to follow ( RDM/MRDM) 2. You Shot Out Of Spawn BEFORE A D CLASS CAME INTO SPAWN (failrp) 3. You didn’t just decide to close the door and just kept shooting after dying (nlr) 4. You should’ve received an LTAP because it seemed you knew what you were doing and left 5. You need proof to backup your claims 3 2 1 Doctor | E11 SM / Senior Ranger Salami Lid | Moderator / Ex Event Team "In this world you either crank that soulja boy or it cranks you" - Some Philosopher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJayden Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/5/2020 at 4:57 PM, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support No real proof for the ban being invalid. TheJayden | Retired PoliceRP PD Colonel | Retired/Reserve Delta Squad Second Lieutenant | Street Crimes Unit Co-Commander | Member of Gaminglight since March 29, 2018 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxi Sups.gg Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 On 7/7/2020 at 9:37 AM, BrickHead said: If you don’t wanna read Zeus's Essay here is a summary (I was 1 of the D class there) 1. You killed D class not out of self defense which is a rule that Researchers need to follow ( RDM/MRDM) 2. You Shot Out Of Spawn BEFORE A D CLASS CAME INTO SPAWN (failrp) 3. You didn’t just decide to close the door and just kept shooting after dying (nlr) 4. You should’ve received an LTAP because it seemed you knew what you were doing and left 5. You need proof to backup your claims HA!!! GOTTEM -SUPPORT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoovy Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Denied Former SCP:RP Event Team Leader (5/15/19 - 12/31/19) Current SCP:RP Head Administrator "I'll see you on the Dark Side of the Moon" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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