Gunther Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 What are you suggesting? - A buff to the Falcon pistol. Specifically its recoil, as it is it really high. How would this change better the server? - As fast as it can fire, its extremely inaccurate, and is only accurate in slowed, long range shots, but with the recoil as high as it is, shooting with it is not ideal. A reduction in recoil would make the weapon much more viable to use and more shots can be fired off. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - D-Class shoot with more accuracy and faster while at long range, since they are the set of classes who use it the most. Who would this change mostly benefit? - Any Falcon owners. Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooM Guy Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 +Support As good as the falcon if for killing OFC's is does need the recoil reduced. It has a scope but it's only good for close range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tania Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 +Support The new recoil on the Falcon is way too much the way it was before was perfectly fine. "Osu! Fucking Pro" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry S. Plinkett Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 +Shurikens Fires like Im shooting one handed after sitting on my arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Inaccurate Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 -Support The falcon is mainly used in D-Class, and D-Class aren't supposed to be powerful. D-Class already get control of d-block a lot, I dont want everyone with 10$ to be able to melt Gensec. 4 "Pay increase declined. Welcome to the Foundation, get used to it." -O5-6 3rd time Head of Medical Staff | Ex-Director of Research and Security | Ex-Director of Utility | Ex-Senior Admin for SCP-RP | Ex-Admin for TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange 🍊 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 +Support It's a nice side arm to have on me with CI, but the recoil is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Orange said: +Support It's a nice side arm to have on me with CI, but the recoil is bad The recoil gives me arthritis +Support Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooM Guy Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 25 minutes ago, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support The falcon is mainly used in D-Class, and D-Class aren't supposed to be powerful. D-Class already get control of d-block a lot, I dont want everyone with 10$ to be able to melt Gensec. As much as you think D-Class rarely take control of D-block anymore. The lovebabes have vanished off the face the earth never to be seen again, and the jacks are only on for like a hour a day. Even my CC doesn’t make a appearance on the server very often because irl stuff. D-Class used CC’s as a crutch to riot or kill MTF. However you don’t see the D-Class CC’s on as much as you used to, so D-bois need to rely on themselves and guns (in this case the falcon) to have more control. D-Class just had a fat nerf so there’s less of advantage for them. D-Class always need to have the upper hand at something. Either it be Via crafting system or guns, and numbers don’t count because sometimes there not a lot on (as in the number of d-bois). Now I’m not saying give the D-class smgs or deagles but something minimal. I sorrta agree D-Class shouldn’t be powerful, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t let them have good things. Hell the falcon isn’t that good compared to other pistols. Overall you’re looking at this the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Inaccurate Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Here's the thing. 1 mass D-Class riot can completely shut down multiple branches RP. Medical: Medbay could be in lockdown, completely ending their RP until it is safe to unlock it. Tech/Jan: Makes it unable to be safe in LCZ, D-Class often kill them shutting down their RP Research: Takes away Research's ability to do tests, giving them nothing to do. Gensec: Puts their entire focus on D-block. During this, they can't do things like patrols, guarding armory/medbay, or escort research. They will also die a lot, keeping them in bunks more than keeping LCZ safe. Overall, D-Class riots kill RP in LCZ. A new rule was put in place for Gensec as well, keeping no more than 6 guards in D-block when possible, while the others will be out patrolling/guessing other areas. Making it easier for D-Class to kill RP in LCZ I'd not something I'll support. If you would like to debate more on the issue, I would prefer if we take it to pms, as I don't want to argue on/clutter this suggestion 3 "Pay increase declined. Welcome to the Foundation, get used to it." -O5-6 3rd time Head of Medical Staff | Ex-Director of Research and Security | Ex-Director of Utility | Ex-Senior Admin for SCP-RP | Ex-Admin for TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack II Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 40 dps and 600+ RPM is op enough for a dclass weapon that aint on a Cc - support Rejected from the gaminglight community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Orange said: +Support It's a nice side arm to have on me with CI, but the recoil is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Jack II said: 40 dps and 600+ RPM is op enough for a dclass weapon that aint on a Cc - support [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooM Guy Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Jack II said: 40 dps and 600+ RPM is op enough for a dclass weapon that aint on a Cc - support Yeah but the csgo deagle has a rpm of 263 and can do 73dmg pershot. The falcon is not a CC weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creamey Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 10 hours ago, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support The falcon is mainly used in D-Class, and D-Class aren't supposed to be powerful. D-Class already get control of d-block a lot, I dont want everyone with 10$ to be able to melt Gensec. [SCP-RP] Retired Head Of Security || Retired Field Work Manager || Retired OM3 || Retired Event Team Member [JvS no more] Former FIRST The Grand Inquisitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 11 hours ago, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support The falcon is mainly used in D-Class, and D-Class aren't supposed to be powerful. D-Class already get control of d-block a lot, I dont want everyone with 10$ to be able to melt Gensec. Its not asking for a buff in damage, even if the recoil is lessened, it still does the same amount regardless. Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dang Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 11 hours ago, Orange said: +Support It's a nice side arm to have on me with CI, but the recoil is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da da da Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 +support literally the past 5 odd updates have done nothing but nerf d class and buff gensec, there is literally no room to complain about d class being 'op' or 'meant to be weak'. reduced recoil makes sense anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyGrim Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 17 hours ago, Orange said: +Support It's a nice side arm to have on me with CI, but the recoil is bad I find the falcon recoil bad so I +support This 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icee jay Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 On 7/1/2020 at 12:48 AM, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support The falcon is mainly used in D-Class, and D-Class aren't supposed to be powerful. D-Class already get control of d-block a lot, I dont want everyone with 10$ to be able to melt Gensec. The old E11 CMDR Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Mike Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 11:03 PM, [GL] Inaccurate said: Here's the thing. 1 mass D-Class riot can completely shut down multiple branches RP. Medical: Medbay could be in lockdown, completely ending their RP until it is safe to unlock it. Tech/Jan: Makes it unable to be safe in LCZ, D-Class often kill them shutting down their RP Research: Takes away Research's ability to do tests, giving them nothing to do. Gensec: Puts their entire focus on D-block. During this, they can't do things like patrols, guarding armory/medbay, or escort research. They will also die a lot, keeping them in bunks more than keeping LCZ safe. Overall, D-Class riots kill RP in LCZ. A new rule was put in place for Gensec as well, keeping no more than 6 guards in D-block when possible, while the others will be out patrolling/guessing other areas. Making it easier for D-Class to kill RP in LCZ I'd not something I'll support. If you would like to debate more on the issue, I would prefer if we take it to pms, as I don't want to argue on/clutter this suggestion All facts ^^^ Gonna be a -Support from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogs Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 On 7/1/2020 at 12:48 AM, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support The falcon is mainly used in D-Class, and D-Class aren't supposed to be powerful. D-Class already get control of d-block a lot, I dont want everyone with 10$ to be able to melt Gensec. prisoners are not supposed to be mini-MTF lol "The first draft of everything is Shit" - Ernest Hemingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionicle Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 11:09 PM, [GL] Zeus said: The recoil gives me arthritis +Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadTimeInbound Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 -Support. The Falcon is already a one-handed sniper rifle when compared to most other secondaries. It doesn't need a buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surge Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 11:48 PM, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support The falcon is mainly used in D-Class, and D-Class aren't supposed to be powerful. D-Class already get control of d-block a lot, I dont want everyone with 10$ to be able to melt Gensec. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ret MTF Nu7 1LT SFTO Surge| Ret OH2 RRH , Retired SM Gensec | No officer that 24Pounds of plutonium isn't mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWNED Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 On 7/1/2020 at 2:03 AM, [GL] Inaccurate said: Here's the thing. 1 mass D-Class riot can completely shut down multiple branches RP. Medical: Medbay could be in lockdown, completely ending their RP until it is safe to unlock it. Tech/Jan: Makes it unable to be safe in LCZ, D-Class often kill them shutting down their RP Research: Takes away Research's ability to do tests, giving them nothing to do. Gensec: Puts their entire focus on D-block. During this, they can't do things like patrols, guarding armory/medbay, or escort research. They will also die a lot, keeping them in bunks more than keeping LCZ safe. Overall, D-Class riots kill RP in LCZ. A new rule was put in place for Gensec as well, keeping no more than 6 guards in D-block when possible, while the others will be out patrolling/guessing other areas. Making it easier for D-Class to kill RP in LCZ I'd not something I'll support. If you would like to debate more on the issue, I would prefer if we take it to pms, as I don't want to argue on/clutter this suggestion I agree with all these points, iv'e literally seen 2 D-class with falcons take down an omi9 redacted post nerf its fine where it is - Support 1 2 Former E11 1LT/Head Ranger, Former Event Team/Staff Member| GENSEC SGT Foundation Chef <- me when the quiet guy in D-block begins to reach into his pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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