PandaInShitpostLand Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) What are you suggesting? - reverting multiple weapons the D-Class has that got nerfed since the recent balance change, and one that has been nerfed for a while, the fubar, heres my reasoning Smokes (OLD) Provided decent cover from fire, acting like a smoke, with a good radius allowing for rushes to not be cheese shredders I Smokes (NEW) Provides terrible cover with barely any radius making the smokes more of an advantage for the gesnec then D-Class. D-Block Fence (OLD) Provided 2 entry points into D-Block in different areas making gensec have to strategize and have to plan for the rushes I D-Block Fence (NEW) Is one chokepoint which the gensec have to brain dead watch for d-class before getting melted. and the fubar doesn't need a big explanation, the hit registration was so bad on it that you couldn't hit anything. the reasoning behind it being so good was because of the skill of the players and not the actual weapon. gensec has had a year to cope with us, they should be skilled enough to deal with the fubar. How would this change better the server? - these new server changes were very unnecessary, lets at least embrace them but change some things, these nerfs nerfed everything that makes d-class even somewhat fun to play, as D-class cc's such as buckbe were getting back into the server, are not liking the new changes and might leave again Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - theres not any, other than gensec having to cope with some things that are a bit new to the changes Who would this change mostly benefit? - D-Class and for gensec having more fun during riots Edited July 1, 2020 by Panda0Playz The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Mike Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 -Support ummmmmm no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Mike Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Custumz said: Do you have a reason as to why you say "No" Just trying to understand both sides. Cause its a waste of SMT's Time to change it. "Dont fix it if it's not broken" Edited July 1, 2020 by [GL] Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooM Guy Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I'm so confused on where your trying to get at here. Do you want D-Class to be nerfed, do you want them to be buffed? I'm so confused?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 38 minutes ago, [GL] Mike said: -Support ummmmmm no? The weapons are perfectly fine as it is -Support Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bread Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 The only thing I agree with here is the new dblock layout is really bad lol, lmao even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 57 minutes ago, Bread said: The only thing I agree with here is the new dblock layout is really bad This, only because I don't have smokes nor a Fubar. I do agree its the user not the weapon. Despite the Christmas Hammers massive nerfs, its still capable of taking on Omi9. Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Inaccurate Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 -Support D-Class are meant to be serverely underpowered compared to Gensec/MTF, besides, they get control if d-block enough already "Pay increase declined. Welcome to the Foundation, get used to it." -O5-6 3rd time Head of Medical Staff | Ex-Director of Research and Security | Ex-Director of Utility | Ex-Senior Admin for SCP-RP | Ex-Admin for TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Emperor Drip Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 - support to early to tell if things are good or not you should give this a couple of days atleast Emperor of D-Block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, God Emperor Drip said: - support to early to tell if things are good or not you should give this a couple of days atleast Was Nu7 2LT Shot Once Was a Nu7 MSGT also was a CI Captain once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support D-Class are meant to be serverely underpowered compared to Gensec/MTF, besides, they get control if d-block enough already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creamey Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 16 hours ago, TWIX said: I'm so confused on where your trying to get at here. Do you want D-Class to be nerfed, do you want them to be buffed? I'm so confused?? 12 hours ago, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support D-Class are meant to be serverely underpowered compared to Gensec/MTF, besides, they get control if d-block enough already 12 hours ago, God Emperor Drip said: - support to early to tell if things are good or not you should give this a couple of days atleast [SCP-RP] Retired Head Of Security || Retired Field Work Manager || Retired OM3 || Retired Event Team Member [JvS no more] Former FIRST The Grand Inquisitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 -Support I don't really think the new Dblock is anywhere near as powerful as people are making it out to be, I mean the day it was changed we completely lost Dblock, and we had plenty of people on to defend it. I can't say for the dclass weapons as i haven't used them yet, but security seem to be nearly equal with Dclass before the update, which is not how it should be, why should people imprisoned in a high security prison be able to outguna security member in a one on one fight? it doesn't make sense, Dclass aren't meant to be powerful on there own, they should use there numbers and lack of NLR to over time over power security not have 2 Dclass kill all of security in one rush. || Retired GenSec || STARS || J04 "Crest" || Foul Tarnished || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 14 hours ago, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support D-Class are meant to be serverely underpowered compared to Gensec/MTF, besides, they get control if d-block enough already [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manager Curtis Posted July 2, 2020 Manager Share Posted July 2, 2020 -Support In my opinion the new layout is a new layout everyone has to get used to it. And for the weapon update it is to make things more balanced, the guns may have been "nerfed" or "buffed" but you are D Class aka Prisoners of the foundation. You are not supposed to be able to take D Block easily. “Be the change that you wish to see in the world.” ― Mahatma Gandhi Retired Director of Intelligence(2023) & Former Epsilon-11 Commander (2020/2023) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Mr. February said: -Support In my opinion the new layout is a new layout everyone has to get used to it. And for the weapon update it is to make things more balanced, the guns may have been "nerfed" or "buffed" but you are D Class aka Prisoners of the foundation. You are not supposed to be able to take D Block easily. the old d-block layout allowed for rushes to be fair having gensec to strategize, its also ugly as hell On 7/1/2020 at 12:47 AM, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support D-Class are meant to be serverely underpowered compared to Gensec/MTF, besides, they get control if d-block enough already sure true, however it seemed fair for both sides, as its a number advantage, again, its the skill of the players and the amount. On 6/30/2020 at 8:29 PM, [GL] Mike said: Cause its a waste of SMT's Time to change it. "Dont fix it if it's not broken" well our old smokes were fine, why were they nerfed "dont fix it if its not broken" On 7/1/2020 at 2:26 PM, Meridian said: -Support I don't really think the new Dblock is anywhere near as powerful as people are making it out to be, I mean the day it was changed we completely lost Dblock, and we had plenty of people on to defend it. I can't say for the dclass weapons as i haven't used them yet, but security seem to be nearly equal with Dclass before the update, which is not how it should be, why should people imprisoned in a high security prison be able to outguna security member in a one on one fight? it doesn't make sense, Dclass aren't meant to be powerful on there own, they should use there numbers and lack of NLR to over time over power security not have 2 Dclass kill all of security in one rush. that was because one lcpl was defending and the rest of gensec trickled in 1 by 1... oh, also cc's have nlr... Edited July 2, 2020 by Panda0Playz The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Panda0Playz said: that was because one lcpl was defending and the rest of gensec trickled in 1 by 1... oh, also cc's have nlr... S does every gensec, and dclass CC NLR is one minute, which is basically the time it takes to respawn restock and wait for the elevator || Retired GenSec || STARS || J04 "Crest" || Foul Tarnished || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadTimeInbound Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) -Support. D-block is still in a constant state of turmoil with the changes. It was to the point where GenSec couldn't hold it down half of the time. These changes are for the better. Edited July 3, 2020 by BadTimeInbound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 It's not advisable to immediately revert changes until they have had a chance to impact the flow of gameplay in them. One day is not enough to warrant a suggestion to basically revert back. SCPRP Head of Staff Lead Discord Administrator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWNED Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 PHAT - Support Are you serious? "more fun for Gensec during riots" back when D-block had that stupid sniper tower in the back and knifes and the falcon were at their prime gensec activity was basically at an all time low because it was a struggle for newer members to do literally anything at all as some brain-dead D-class with a [insert donator weapon here] just bum-rushes them and they died in like 2-3 hits. Former E11 1LT/Head Ranger, Former Event Team/Staff Member| GENSEC SGT Foundation Chef <- me when the quiet guy in D-block begins to reach into his pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogs Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 10:32 PM, Bread said: The only thing I agree with here is the new dblock layout is really bad besides the layout, d-class are relatively balanced "The first draft of everything is Shit" - Ernest Hemingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 On 7/3/2020 at 2:52 AM, Øwnęd-RIP RickMay said: PHAT - Support Are you serious? "more fun for Gensec during riots" back when D-block had that stupid sniper tower in the back and knifes and the falcon were at their prime gensec activity was basically at an all time low because it was a struggle for newer members to do literally anything at all as some brain-dead D-class with a [insert donator weapon here] just bum-rushes them and they died in like 2-3 hits. hmm. i see however, i do not care about the fubar anymore, i made it when i wasn't thinking straight however, the smokes and the D-Block layout was neutered, because when we started to use the smokes to there most effective use of pushing during riots, they get nerfed, like everything else that we use effectively why cant we have 1 GOOD THING, i want the smokes back, and i want the old D-Block layout. yes, the donator weapons are powerful, just nerf em, why nerf everything else we got i agree with the falcon, deagle, s&w, i agree with most of the nerfs, except for those 2 things right now, its impossible to push without D-Block being a special human cheese grater. The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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