Neo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) Your in game name: Booob Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:98985856 The player's in game name: Kilo Frost (RS Jay) The player's steam ID: STEAM_0:0:509667231 STEAM_0:1:168887765 What did the player do: Requesting E-11 when not authorized to. And Frost complying breaking one of the two server rules E-11 have. Evidence: E-11 admitted to OMI calling them in and Kilo having knowledge the rules exists. What do you believe should happen to the player: ez warns Edited June 24, 2020 by Neo SCP-RP Moderator | CI LTCOL Boozle LC32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogs Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) +SupportThe excuse of "Its out of date" clearly shows kilo just didn't care about the rule, and with frost, i would like to hear his side of the story Edited June 23, 2020 by fazfan1987 2 "The first draft of everything is Shit" - Ernest Hemingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icee jay Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) +/-support I do see where u coming from but the redacted was just following orders there was a discrepancy in the E-11 SOP. This will be fixed. MOTD rules comes first and also the time when E-11 was asked to stay in and the redacted replying was to fast to hear the complainants. I do feel your concerns tho and as I said this discrepancy will be fixed. I dont see why the redacted name was put here at all do to the fact he was just trying to keep E-11 on track. Im sure this all was just a big misunderstanding in the rules that can be fixed Edited June 23, 2020 by icee jay miss spelling 1 The old E11 CMDR Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakub Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 +support, evidence is clear from 2 points: 1. E11 were called in to the facility by an invalid person to do idk what. 2.They were staying in ez (*cough* camping *cough*) during a defcon 4, What was so dangerous and important that e11 had to be in ez, Ex E11 COL, Ex A1 MAJ, Ex AHOTS, Ex Security 2LT, Ex Admin. Current CI 2LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icee jay Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) and also i did not know oni-9 can not ask us in thats why i jumped onto the reply so fast Edited June 23, 2020 by icee jay I cant spell The old E11 CMDR Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, icee jay said: and also i did not know oni-9 can not ask us in thats why i jumped onto the reply so fast Shouldn't have clicked close then. 4 1 SCP-RP Moderator | CI LTCOL Boozle LC32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M8VP ツ Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jakub said: +support, evidence is clear from 2 points: 1. E11 were called in to the facility by an invalid person to do idk what. 2.They were staying in ez (*cough* camping *cough*) during a defcon 4, What was so dangerous and important that e11 had to be in ez, 1 minute ago, Neo said: Shouldn't have clicked close then. lmao Retired CI LTCMDR | Proud Enuzer | Roblox Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icee jay Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Neo said: Shouldn't have clicked close then. if u read where i said there is a discrepancy between the SOP and MOTD u can clearly see i was un aware of any rule break. As I said before the MOTD come 1st. This do not put me in the wrong when there is a discrepancy between two guilds im meant to follow. With this being said the SOP needs to be updated. I clicked close on my SOP as well and understood what I read there as well. I do agree with u tho I will work to get SOP up to date 1 The old E11 CMDR Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogieeeeeee Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, Jakub said: +support, evidence is clear from 2 points: 1. E11 were called in to the facility by an invalid person to do idk what. 2.They were staying in ez (*cough* camping *cough*) during a defcon 4, What was so dangerous and important that e11 had to be in ez, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manager Curtis Posted June 23, 2020 Manager Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) ----------------------------------- Please keep it to +/- Supports ----------------------------------- Doing this before a Forums Diplomat has to lock the thread. But I do +support this thread, I have told people in the past that it was only the Utility, Research, and Security, but everyone else said no it wasn't, MTF as well. Thy will be talked to as Epsilon-11 Members and MTF Members. I will as well as Ping all MTF regarding this situation saying that only these branches can do this until it is changed. Just a heads up there will be a rule update change request for Epsilon-11 regarding this situation. Thank you for the report. Edited June 23, 2020 by Mr. February “Be the change that you wish to see in the world.” ― Mahatma Gandhi Retired Director of Intelligence(2023) & Former Epsilon-11 Commander (2020/2023) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) So in the MOTD update which was accepted, it was specified that any on-site command could request E11 in but the rule was changed when implemented in the MOTD to state only Utility and Research and Gensec So I’m guessing what happened was people saw that the MOTD update was accepted and went along with the rules in the above mentioned post. However they should know to look for any updates to the MOTD cause they accept it every time they log into the server. This just seems like an honest mistake on the parts of my men. I will be talking to them regarding this and strictly prioritising MOTD over anything else and I would like to apologise on behalf of my E11 for the inconveniences caused. -Epsilon Eleven Colonel Zeus 5 minutes ago, Neo said: This still breaks the new rules too, Kilo isn't command. Sorry accidentally deleted, Kilo is a Warrant Officer in Omicron 9, therefore he is a Command Member Edited June 23, 2020 by [GL] Zeus Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookieblue Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, [GL] Zeus said: So in the MOTD update which was accepted, it was specified that any on-site command could request E11 in but the rule was changed when implemented in the MOTD to state only Utility and Research and Gensec So I’m guessing what happened was people saw that the MOTD update was accepted and went along with the rules in the above mentioned post. However they should know to look for any updates to the MOTD cause they accept it every time they log into the server. This just seems like an honest mistake on the parts of my men. I will be talking to them regarding this and strictly prioritising MOTD over anything else and I would like to apologise on behalf of my E11 for the inconveniences caused. -Epsilon Eleven Colonel Zeus If I remember correctly, this specific update was requested prior to OMI even being implemented, but I'll admit I'm not 100% sure on it, the months blur together for me. Additionally, we had dealt with a dust up on this before, if a branch wants an update to the MOTD, they need to approach me/post a suggestion/literally do something to say they want a rule updated. MOTD > SOPs always, and saying, "It's out of date" is not a valid defense, considering I just made some pretty significant updates to it recently regarding CI's combat rules. If CI can talk to me/Hoovy/SMT and get rules updated and added, I have no idea why it's always MTF that seemingly decide they can just disregard the MOTD and do their own thing. It's frustrating because I've literally reached out to every command a number of times and previously worked closely with OMI command to get their info added to the MOTD and it never happened. 3 Retired SCP-RP Head of Staff March 3rd, 2019 - December 16th, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG_Kilo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) Yea, I didn’t know this rule was in the MOTD as the E11 SOP says that MTF command can request E11 on-site. This was honestly a big mistake. I was even told by many command that I could, so I assumed it was out of date. Edited June 23, 2020 by TG_Kilo "L’Eggo My Eggo" ||Omi9|| E11 PFC || CI RND Researcher || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead man [GL] Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 +/- support personally I think the D4 should be left out of this because he was just relaying the information to the E11 1 MTF E11 VCMDR Mateo C0RN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionicle Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Jakub said: +support, evidence is clear from 2 points: 1. E11 were called in to the facility by an invalid person to do idk what. 2.They were staying in ez (*cough* camping *cough*) during a defcon 4, What was so dangerous and important that e11 had to be in ez, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Inaccurate Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, fazfan1987 said: +SupportThe excuse of "Its out of date" clearly shows kilo just didn't care about the rule, and with frost, i would like to hear his side of the story "Pay increase declined. Welcome to the Foundation, get used to it." -O5-6 3rd time Head of Medical Staff | Ex-Director of Research and Security | Ex-Director of Utility | Ex-Senior Admin for SCP-RP | Ex-Admin for TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack (utility one) Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 +/- support I mean it does state on utility, research, and security command can only call in E11, that I do know. But I believe both parties just didn't know due to the E11 SOP and the suggestion to change the MOTD. I know this isn't an excuse but I believe both parties understand what they did wrong and I think that's what truly matters and as long as they don't do it again I don't think a warn is needed. (you can perceive this as a +support with advice kinda, I would do +support but I don't think they need a warn.) There are gods in Alabama: Jack Daniel's, high school quarterbacks, trucks, big tits, and also Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 +/-Support I could see why you're mad, and I can see the failrp aspect, but in all honesty I think its a huge misunderstanding. I think the players should be talked to and informed about the rules correctly. 1 Retired Super Admin Blackbeard (SCPRP) | Retired Director of Containment: Blackbeard | Retired Director of Task Forces: Blackbeard | The One and Only Omicron-9 Commander | Retired O5-6 "The American" (SCPRP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skela Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Neo said: Shouldn't have clicked close then. LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO Yuh imm@ Thash Dat B¡tch!!*^€{ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookieblue Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 7 hours ago, icee jay said: +/-support I do see where u coming from but the redacted was just following orders there was a discrepancy in the E-11 SOP. This will be fixed. MOTD rules comes first and also the time when E-11 was asked to stay in and the redacted replying was to fast to hear the complainants. I do feel your concerns tho and as I said this discrepancy will be fixed. I dont see why the redacted name was put here at all do to the fact he was just trying to keep E-11 on track. Im sure this all was just a big misunderstanding in the rules that can be fixed Why was E11 in EZ on DEFCON 4, and why did you order they remain there prior to being called by Kilo? 1 1 Retired SCP-RP Head of Staff March 3rd, 2019 - December 16th, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Jakub said: +support, evidence is clear from 2 points: 1. E11 were called in to the facility by an invalid person to do idk what. 2.They were staying in ez (*cough* camping *cough*) during a defcon 4, What was so dangerous and important that e11 had to be in ez, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Forehead man [GL] said: +/- support personally I think the D4 should be left out of this because he was just relaying the information to the E11 -Support Jay was just following orders, and he was asked to stay in, so he did. And if anyone should be getting punished, it should be Kilo (sorry). 1 1 Ashie •﹏•#1201 Former CI 2LT Zone | E11 WO Nines 009S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurmp Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Zone said: -Support Jay was just following orders, and he was asked to stay in, so he did. And if anyone should be getting punished, it should be Kilo (sorry). He makes an amazing point Foundation Doctor,FORMER E11 CPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Zone said: -Support Jay was just following orders, and he was asked to stay in, so he did. And if anyone should be getting punished, it should be Kilo (sorry). +/-Support While I personally do agree that a punishment will likely be put in place, the STF was following orders to stay within the facility. A quote from Rang's signature, "A good soldier obeys without question. A good officer commands without doubt." That being said, I do not believe the STF should receive a punishment, but the Omi9 should due to their bad order (sorry). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Starstep said: A quote from Rang's signature, "A good soldier obeys without question. A good officer commands without doubt." That being said, I do not believe the STF should receive a punishment, but the Omi9 should due to their bad order (sorry). could not have said it better myself Edited June 24, 2020 by Zone 1 1 Ashie •﹏•#1201 Former CI 2LT Zone | E11 WO Nines 009S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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