ryan2543 NotFound.Tech Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 What you want to see? - the advanced combat medic to not be allowed to engage d class for being past the line Why should we add it? - because when you have a 200 health beast charging you with a knife that 2 to 3 taps you is not fun they also kill ci during raids often What are the advantages of having this? - it makes more sense as it is classified as medical and medical cant engage d class unless d class engage them first Who is it mainly for? - Advanced combat medic and d class Links to any content - N/A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 ACM's shouldn't be doing Security's job. SCP-RP Moderator | CI LTCOL Boozle LC32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan2543 NotFound.Tech Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 Just now, Neo said: ACM's shouldn't be doing Security's job. they always are if the is a riot they will just start stabbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionicle Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Neo said: ACM's shouldn't be doing Security's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Inaccurate Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) -Support The issue is the fact that if you take this away, you make it a glorified Field Medic. We are currently working on a way to give more to do than shoot by making it a more HCZ based class, but for now it doesn't have much to do other than sit around in D-Block/LCZ. I was also told by SMT/Site Admin that it attacks out of free will Edited May 14, 2020 by [GL] Inaccurate My wording wasn't the best lol. "Pay increase declined. Welcome to the Foundation, get used to it." -O5-6 3rd time Head of Medical Staff | Ex-Director of Research and Security | Ex-Director of Utility | Ex-Senior Admin for SCP-RP | Ex-Admin for TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadTimeInbound Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 -Support. ACM is fine as it is in my opinion. It's one of the few classes that can both shoot and heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan2543 NotFound.Tech Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support The issue is the fact that if you take this away, you make it a glorified Field Medic. We are currently working on a way to give more to do than shoot by making it a more HCZ based class, but for now it doesn't have much to do other than sit around in D-Block/LCZ. I was also told by SMT/Site Admin that it could attack out of self defense. im ok with them attacking but its the fact they just attack all the time not in self defense if it is in self defense its fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Inaccurate Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Just now, ryan2543 NotFound.Tech said: im ok with them attacking but its the fact they just attack all the time not in self defense if it is in self defense its fine 4 minutes ago, [GL] Inaccurate said: I was also told by SMT/Site Admin that it attacks out of self defense. "Pay increase declined. Welcome to the Foundation, get used to it." -O5-6 3rd time Head of Medical Staff | Ex-Director of Research and Security | Ex-Director of Utility | Ex-Senior Admin for SCP-RP | Ex-Admin for TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack (utility one) Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 -support I understand that we shouldn't be doing securities job but that should only be the case if D-class aren't rioting. It ruins a lot of peoples RP if D-class riot for a long time and ACM makes it where it makes it where it's easier to contain D-class when it's needed. Reminder D-class aren't supposed to escape and that's why it's difficult. Also same and MMF but ACM is considered to be more of a MTF not just medical. I do think that again if D-class arent rioting we shouldn't be able to kill you IN D-block but if you are in LCZ we should. There are gods in Alabama: Jack Daniel's, high school quarterbacks, trucks, big tits, and also Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 2 hours ago, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support The issue is the fact that if you take this away, you make it a glorified Field Medic. We are currently working on a way to give more to do than shoot by making it a more HCZ based class, but for now it doesn't have much to do other than sit around in D-Block/LCZ. I was also told by SMT/Site Admin that it attacks out of self defense. Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Neo said: ACM's shouldn't be doing Security's job. Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[CCG] Camo Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 ACM Advanced COMBAT Medic, yes take away the combat.Get good 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumandant Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 7 hours ago, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support The issue is the fact that if you take this away, you make it a glorified Field Medic. We are currently working on a way to give more to do than shoot by making it a more HCZ based class, but for now it doesn't have much to do other than sit around in D-Block/LCZ. I was also told by SMT/Site Admin that it attacks out of self defense. 7 hours ago, Jack (utility one) said: -support I understand that we shouldn't be doing securities job but that should only be the case if D-class aren't rioting. It ruins a lot of peoples RP if D-class riot for a long time and ACM makes it where it makes it where it's easier to contain D-class when it's needed. Reminder D-class aren't supposed to escape and that's why it's difficult. Also same and MMF but ACM is considered to be more of a MTF not just medical. I do think that again if D-class arent rioting we shouldn't be able to kill you IN D-block but if you are in LCZ we should. -Support Medical has been doing great with the current state of the ACM, and wanting to change it just because it makes it a little bit harder for you to riot as Class-D is outright selfish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creamey Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, [CCG] Camo said: ACM Advanced COMBAT Medic, yes take away the combat.Get good 13 minutes ago, Kumandant said: -Support Medical has been doing great with the current state of the ACM, and wanting to change it just because it makes it a little bit harder for you to riot as Class-D is outright selfish. This basically sums it up. They are combatants. Unlike the rest of Medical, and Utility for that matter, CI won’t hesitate to open fire on them, even when they’ve been called out in comms. This is because they are a combat class and pose a threat to CI. This also makes them fully capable of killing D Class, as D Class are a threat to the missions of MTF, the branch that ACM supports most. [SCP-RP] Retired Head Of Security || Retired Field Work Manager || Retired OM3 || Retired Event Team Member [JvS no more] Former FIRST The Grand Inquisitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogs Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 19 minutes ago, [CCG] Camo said: ACM Advanced COMBAT Medic, yes take away the combat.Get good "The first draft of everything is Shit" - Ernest Hemingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggo0 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 8 hours ago, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support The issue is the fact that if you take this away, you make it a glorified Field Medic. We are currently working on a way to give more to do than shoot by making it a more HCZ based class, but for now it doesn't have much to do other than sit around in D-Block/LCZ. I was also told by SMT/Site Admin that it attacks out of self defense. SCPRP Director of Logistics, Event Team | Former Nu7 2LT, Former Senior Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillers Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 -Support, its a Advanced Combat Medic. "Without morals, are we truly any better than the things we've set ourselves to contain?" EX-Site Director | EX-Super Admin | EX-Event Team Lead | Otter Lover | Regardless of what SMT Says, not a furry. | R&D Senior Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0LT Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 + support I feel like they should be like 912, they shouldnt inforce gensecs hands up or partial, but should shoot any threats to them or gensec 1 Retired Nu7 CMDR & CI LTCOL/MAJ Senior Admin/Forums dip/Support Supervisor | former the following: HTF/E4 Head | Only Anubis award winner | Former Nu7 HFTO and CI OFTO | Sec MSGT+Pertinax Owns: Omi-9 'Last Remnants' | Farmer Tucker | Farmer Darius XII | Reznov Klushie | Foxx On: Alpha-8 | S.T.A.R.S | Iota-13 'Luxxy's Soldiers' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
October Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, [CCG] Camo said: ACM Advanced COMBAT Medic, yes take away the combat.Get good Camo despite the “combat” in the name I recall many have said to me that they’re a “none combat” class who should only fight in self defense. D-Class crossing the red line, yes it would be horrible for medical’s level class to be a glorified field medic, but at the moment they’re a glorified security. +support 11 hours ago, CreameyCheesey said: This basically sums it up. They are combatants. Unlike the rest of Medical, and Utility for that matter, CI won’t hesitate to open fire on them, even when they’ve been called out in comms. This is because they are a combat class and pose a threat to CI. This also makes them fully capable of killing D Class, as D Class are a threat to the missions of MTF, the branch that ACM supports most. CI actually doesn’t shoot ACM’s as we’ve been assured that they qualify for being non-combatants, the only time I’ve fought an ACM is when I was taking a tech hostage and they attacked ME first. (EDIT): alrighty after review I was mistaken and ACM are a combat class, I misunderstood that which I apologize for. I still don’t believe utility should have a combat class, but at the moment they are a combat class so -support Edited May 14, 2020 by October Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Inaccurate Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, October said: Camo despite the “combat” in the name I recall many have said to me that they’re a “none combat” class who should only fight in self defense. D-Class crossing the red line, yes it would be horrible for medical’s level class to be a glorified field medic, but at the moment they’re a glorified security. +support CI actually doesn’t shoot ACM’s as we’ve been assured that they qualify for being non-combatants, the only time I’ve fought an ACM is when I was taking a tech hostage and they attacked ME first. It is a combatant though. 2 1 "Pay increase declined. Welcome to the Foundation, get used to it." -O5-6 3rd time Head of Medical Staff | Ex-Director of Research and Security | Ex-Director of Utility | Ex-Senior Admin for SCP-RP | Ex-Admin for TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOBeanz Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) -Support ACM have same rules of engagement as MTF. They can attack any D class that are out of the holding area. They should be prioritizing healing, but there's nothing against their rules for shooting rioting D Class. ACMs can be countered at long range pretty easily. Just chip away at them with a Falcon or rush with 1-2 other d class. Edited May 14, 2020 by CanOBeanz O5-9: "Misfortune" A.K.A. "Mr. Unlucky" "Accidents Happen-- Mostly to me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Dtscalice Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 -support Advanced Combat Medics are meant to focus on healing but do not to my current knowledge have to act out of self defense and i believe since last i read SOP shouldnt be in D block if a Field Medic is on the job and in any case they basically are MTF Medics Truth is just a matter of perspective. The duty of every soldier is to protect the innocent ~Captain Price (Modern Warfare 2) Former CMD Positions: E11 1LT, Medical Chief Manager, CI LT and SRIC, Alpha 1 CPL, RRH Squad Lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieHugger21 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, CanOBeanz said: -Support ACM have same rules of engagement as MTF. They can attack any D class that are out of the holding area. They should be prioritizing healing, but there's nothing against their rules for shooting rioting D Class. ACMs can be countered at long range pretty easily. Just chip away at them with a Falcon or rush with 1-2 other d class. Ex-Ahome Cookie | Chicken Pot Pie is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propane Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 2 hours ago, October said: Camo despite the “combat” in the name I recall many have said to me that they’re a “none combat” class who should only fight in self defense. D-Class crossing the red line, yes it would be horrible for medical’s level class to be a glorified field medic, but at the moment they’re a glorified security. +support CI actually doesn’t shoot ACM’s as we’ve been assured that they qualify for being non-combatants, the only time I’ve fought an ACM is when I was taking a tech hostage and they attacked ME first. They are a medic with combat skills, from my knowledge they are self defense only, not MTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, CanOBeanz said: -Support ACM have same rules of engagement as MTF. They can attack any D class that are out of the holding area. They should be prioritizing healing, but there's nothing against their rules for shooting rioting D Class. ACMs can be countered at long range pretty easily. Just chip away at them with a Falcon or rush with 1-2 other d class. They are a combat class. Look at their name Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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