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What you want to see? - the advanced combat medic to not be allowed to engage d class for being past the line

Why should we add it? - because when you have a 200 health beast charging you with a knife that 2 to 3 taps you is not fun they also kill ci during raids often

What are the advantages of having this? - it makes more sense as it is classified as medical and medical cant engage d class unless d class engage them first

Who is it mainly for? - Advanced combat medic and d class

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The issue is the fact that if you take this away, you make it a glorified Field Medic. We are currently working on a way to give more to do than shoot by making it a more HCZ based class, but for now it doesn't have much to do other than sit around in D-Block/LCZ.

I was also told by SMT/Site Admin that it attacks out of free will

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My wording wasn't the best lol.

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2 minutes ago, [GL] Inaccurate said:

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The issue is the fact that if you take this away, you make it a glorified Field Medic. We are currently working on a way to give more to do than shoot by making it a more HCZ based class, but for now it doesn't have much to do other than sit around in D-Block/LCZ.

I was also told by SMT/Site Admin that it could attack out of self defense.

im ok with them attacking but its the fact they just attack all the time not in self defense if it is in self defense its fine

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Just now, ryan2543 NotFound.Tech said:

im ok with them attacking but its the fact they just attack all the time not in self defense if it is in self defense its fine

 

4 minutes ago, [GL] Inaccurate said:

I was also told by SMT/Site Admin that it attacks out of self defense.

 

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I understand that we shouldn't be doing securities job but that should only be the case if D-class aren't rioting. It ruins a lot of peoples RP if D-class riot for a long time and ACM makes it where it makes it where it's easier to contain D-class when it's needed. Reminder D-class aren't supposed to escape and that's why it's difficult. Also same and MMF but ACM is considered to be more of a MTF not just medical. I do think that again if D-class arent rioting we shouldn't be able to kill you IN D-block but if you are in LCZ we should. 

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2 hours ago, [GL] Inaccurate said:

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The issue is the fact that if you take this away, you make it a glorified Field Medic. We are currently working on a way to give more to do than shoot by making it a more HCZ based class, but for now it doesn't have much to do other than sit around in D-Block/LCZ.

I was also told by SMT/Site Admin that it attacks out of self defense.

 

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7 hours ago, [GL] Inaccurate said:

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The issue is the fact that if you take this away, you make it a glorified Field Medic. We are currently working on a way to give more to do than shoot by making it a more HCZ based class, but for now it doesn't have much to do other than sit around in D-Block/LCZ.

I was also told by SMT/Site Admin that it attacks out of self defense.

 

7 hours ago, Jack (utility one) said:

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I understand that we shouldn't be doing securities job but that should only be the case if D-class aren't rioting. It ruins a lot of peoples RP if D-class riot for a long time and ACM makes it where it makes it where it's easier to contain D-class when it's needed. Reminder D-class aren't supposed to escape and that's why it's difficult. Also same and MMF but ACM is considered to be more of a MTF not just medical. I do think that again if D-class arent rioting we shouldn't be able to kill you IN D-block but if you are in LCZ we should. 

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Medical has been doing great with the current state of the ACM, and wanting to change it just because it makes it a little bit harder for you to riot as Class-D is outright selfish.

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14 minutes ago, [CCG] Camo said:

ACM   Advanced COMBAT Medic,  yes take away the combat.



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13 minutes ago, Kumandant said:

 

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Medical has been doing great with the current state of the ACM, and wanting to change it just because it makes it a little bit harder for you to riot as Class-D is outright selfish.

This basically sums it up. They are combatants. Unlike the rest of Medical, and Utility for that matter, CI won’t hesitate to open fire on them, even when they’ve been called out in comms. This is because they are a combat class and pose a threat to CI. This also makes them fully capable of killing D Class, as D Class are a threat to the missions of MTF, the branch that ACM supports most.

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8 hours ago, [GL] Inaccurate said:

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The issue is the fact that if you take this away, you make it a glorified Field Medic. We are currently working on a way to give more to do than shoot by making it a more HCZ based class, but for now it doesn't have much to do other than sit around in D-Block/LCZ.

I was also told by SMT/Site Admin that it attacks out of self defense.

 

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-Support, its a Advanced Combat Medic.

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+ support 

I feel like they should be like 912, they shouldnt inforce gensecs hands up or partial, but should shoot any threats to them or gensec

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11 hours ago, [CCG] Camo said:

ACM   Advanced COMBAT Medic,  yes take away the combat.



Get good

Camo despite the “combat” in the name I recall many have said to me that they’re a “none combat” class who should only fight in self defense. D-Class crossing the red line, yes it would be horrible for medical’s level class to be a glorified field medic, but at the moment they’re a glorified security. +support

11 hours ago, CreameyCheesey said:

 

This basically sums it up. They are combatants. Unlike the rest of Medical, and Utility for that matter, CI won’t hesitate to open fire on them, even when they’ve been called out in comms. This is because they are a combat class and pose a threat to CI. This also makes them fully capable of killing D Class, as D Class are a threat to the missions of MTF, the branch that ACM supports most.

CI actually doesn’t shoot ACM’s as we’ve been assured that they qualify for being non-combatants, the only time I’ve fought an ACM is when I was taking a tech hostage and they attacked ME first. 

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alrighty after review I was mistaken and ACM are a combat class, I misunderstood that which I apologize for. I still don’t believe utility should have a combat class, but at the moment they are a combat class so -support 

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8 minutes ago, October said:

Camo despite the “combat” in the name I recall many have said to me that they’re a “none combat” class who should only fight in self defense. D-Class crossing the red line, yes it would be horrible for medical’s level class to be a glorified field medic, but at the moment they’re a glorified security. +support

CI actually doesn’t shoot ACM’s as we’ve been assured that they qualify for being non-combatants, the only time I’ve fought an ACM is when I was taking a tech hostage and they attacked ME first. 

It is a combatant though.

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ACM have same rules of engagement as MTF. They can attack any D class that are out of the holding area. They should be prioritizing healing, but there's nothing against their rules for shooting rioting D Class. 

ACMs can be countered at long range pretty easily. Just chip away at them with a Falcon or rush with 1-2 other d class.

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Advanced Combat Medics are meant to focus on healing but do not to my current knowledge have to act out of self defense and i believe since last i read SOP shouldnt be in D block if a Field Medic is on the job and in any case they basically are MTF Medics 

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1 hour ago, CanOBeanz said:

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ACM have same rules of engagement as MTF. They can attack any D class that are out of the holding area. They should be prioritizing healing, but there's nothing against their rules for shooting rioting D Class. 

ACMs can be countered at long range pretty easily. Just chip away at them with a Falcon or rush with 1-2 other d class.

 

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2 hours ago, October said:

Camo despite the “combat” in the name I recall many have said to me that they’re a “none combat” class who should only fight in self defense. D-Class crossing the red line, yes it would be horrible for medical’s level class to be a glorified field medic, but at the moment they’re a glorified security. +support

CI actually doesn’t shoot ACM’s as we’ve been assured that they qualify for being non-combatants, the only time I’ve fought an ACM is when I was taking a tech hostage and they attacked ME first. 

They are a medic with combat skills, from my knowledge they are self defense only, not MTF

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1 hour ago, CanOBeanz said:

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ACM have same rules of engagement as MTF. They can attack any D class that are out of the holding area. They should be prioritizing healing, but there's nothing against their rules for shooting rioting D Class. 

ACMs can be countered at long range pretty easily. Just chip away at them with a Falcon or rush with 1-2 other d class.

They are a combat class. Look at their name

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