Bread Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 What you want to see? - CIs entire bunker being considered a spawn - only CI/D-Class allowed inside. Why should we add it? - Currently, whenever CI capture an SCP, it is Impossible for MTF to attempt a raid to recapture, due to how large of an unfair advantage CI has due to the extremely small entrance. Instead, multiple testing sites should be set up inside the buildings on surface, and CI should have to store them there. MTF should not have to pay for an SCP every single time, and should have a fair chance to take them back by force. What are the advantages of having this? - Balance. Who is it mainly for? - MTF/CI Links to any content - N/A 2 6 lol, lmao even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillers Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 +Support, it is practicaly impossible to raid the CI base. "Without morals, are we truly any better than the things we've set ourselves to contain?" EX-Site Director | EX-Super Admin | EX-Event Team Lead | Otter Lover | Regardless of what SMT Says, not a furry. | R&D Senior Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange 🍊 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) -Support CI and MTF switched up during a PT and had CI raid the CI base, It is very possible to raid. Also CI have to push the foundation seeing the same people multiple times, when a defender dies in the CI base they are out and normally can not return due to NLR Edited May 8, 2020 by Official Orange 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 -support omi9 are getting buffed, and the two times i remember mtf raiding they won. also, it's fun to go 966 and troll ci. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dang Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Official Orange said: -Support CI and MTF switched up during a PT and had CI raid the CI base, It is very possible to raid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakub Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 -support where would you like us to store the scps? The back of the base is the designated spawn! you can't say that it's too hard to raid the base when during the last pt mtf built defences in our bunker(which we aren't allowed to do during normal raids) and we raided it succesfully (the odds were against us, you had more people) Ex E11 COL, Ex A1 MAJ, Ex AHOTS, Ex Security 2LT, Ex Admin. Current CI 2LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowFlake Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 -Support This entire thread's going to be heavily biased, anyways. 4 minutes ago, Official Orange said: -Support CI and MTF switched up during a PT and had CI raid the CI base, It is very possible to raid. 1 CI CPT Snowflake MUTE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead man [GL] Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jakub said: -support where would you like us to store the scps? The back of the base is the designated spawn! you can't say that it's too hard to raid the base when during the last pt mtf built defences in our bunker(which we aren't allowed to do during normal raids) and we raided it succesfully (the odds were against us, you had more people) we were still preparing and you went anyways 1 MTF E11 VCMDR Mateo C0RN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAM3 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 -support To be fair, you guys had 1 more person, the same choke point, and better barricades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FancyPants Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 -Support Video kinda proof that the MTF were not focusing on the objective. You have to understand CI have to go through the facility facing E11, MTF, Gensec,ect all of them have short NLR which allow them a chance to kill us again while we're still inside. Raiding the CI base maybe short and simple it's a small base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propane Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 -support So while you can keep SCP's in foundation with many doors and chokepoints, we can't use our own base? Bruh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jakub said: -support where would you like us to store the scps? The back of the base is the designated spawn! you can't say that it's too hard to raid the base when during the last pt mtf built defences in our bunker(which we aren't allowed to do during normal raids) and we raided it succesfully (the odds were against us, you had more people) Remember that CI are made to be inherently stronger than MTF due to the fact that MTF usually have the defending advantage and can be encountered more than once per raid +/- Support Up to SMT as this would be annoying to enforce and the entrance can be used by both sides to cover a retreat when you're leaving for example Was Nu7 2LT Shot Once Was a Nu7 MSGT also was a CI Captain once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I disappear Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 -support Bruh, where else are we gonna store SCP's? Back of the base is designated spawn That was a PT when CI was prepared. Normally we are not prepared and you guys have a fair shot. 'Cause you can't feel my anger You can't feel my pain You can't feel my torment Driving me insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
October Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 -support I don’t want to come off as argumentative or start a fight, but CI has proven that it is possible to raid. You guys had 1 more defender and barricades, but CI still won the raid. When we defend CI base we don’t even place barricades. Keep in mind that MTF typically outnumber CI. Also, when we raid we don’t complain about the fact that we have to engage multiple rounds of MTF, but when you guys raid CI base is so small that you don’t have to engage multiple rounds of CI. Also O-9 will most likely get their buff, so you’ll be even stronger. You brought up the fact that your raids typically fail, but our raids almost always fail as well. Defenders always have the advantage. You guys can also use our long hallways as an advantage when retreating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) I mean to be fair, in that video Orange literally can tank the damage, he has 225/225. You guys are using the PT as your proof but that was a mandatory event, you had I believe 20 or so CI and 15-20 MTF, lets look at a normal day, we might have 12 CI vs 9-10 MTF, some of which being CC's and being AFK. CI are preparing for a raid, they are expecting it. MTF have to travel down a ladder and can only go one at a time to avoid fall damage. That gives CI plenty of time to shred through each person coming down. 24 minutes ago, Official Orange said: CI and MTF switched up during a PT and had CI raid the CI base, It is very possible to raid. +Support on changing the storage for SCPs. Edited May 8, 2020 by Gunther Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propane Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gunther said: I mean to be fair, in that video Orange literally can tank the damage, he has 225/225. You guys are using the PT as your proof but that was a mandatory event, you had I believe 20 or so CI and 15-20 MTF, lets look at a normal day, we might have 12 CI vs 9-10 MTF, some of which being CC's and being AFK. CI are preparing for a raid, they are expecting it. MTF have to travel down a ladder and can only go one at a time to avoid fall damage. That gives CI plenty of time to shred through each person coming down. +Support on changing the storage for SCPs. No, on average only 5 CI are on a raid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 34 minutes ago, Falxen said: +Support, it is practicaly impossible to raid the CI base. Gaminglight PoliceRP Retired Superadmin “Genius is one percent inspiration, ninety-nine percent perspiration.” “There are no shortcuts to any place worth going.” “You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Propane said: No, on average only 5 CI are on a raid Does that include the Customs? Seems like every raid I find myself fight an Abba. Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papachurchill Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) Don't start a argument take it to DM if you need to but just state your opinion and move on with it Edited May 8, 2020 by Papachurchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propane Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gunther said: Does that include the Customs? Seems like every raid I find myself fight an Abba. Well we can rarely get to D Block so if we get to LCZ there is likely to be a CC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOBeanz Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 +/- Support I think more data is needed on combat situations involving the CI base entrance to truly determine how much of an advantage/disadvantage it is at this time Personally, i think it's probably going to always be hell trying to stuff 10 MTF down that ladder or dragging cuffed scps up it, all while under attack. But if it is truly possible, then more strategy may need to be practiced possibly through further PTs involving CI base. O5-9: "Misfortune" A.K.A. "Mr. Unlucky" "Accidents Happen-- Mostly to me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Maybe igneous/rang could run some tests and see if it's really hard to raid? just a thought. For now though, I'm still a -support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Judge Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 51 minutes ago, Falxen said: +Support, it is practicaly impossible to raid the CI base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[CCG] Camo Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 +Support It's fucking hard to raid CI, That is a HARD Chokepoint if you have 4+ people with an IQ above 30 and OK weapons, It will be a slaughter for the attackers unless there is a FUCK TON of attackers, Oh also a haha funny is that most of the time OMI-9 are supposed to deal with CI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Alpha_ Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, [CCG] Camo said: +Support It's fucking hard to raid CI, That is a HARD Chokepoint if you have 4+ people with an IQ above 30 and OK weapons, It will be a slaughter for the attackers unless there is a FUCK TON of attackers, Oh also a haha funny is that most of the time OMI-9 are supposed to deal with CI. Former DHOS Current GENSEC LTCOL - Deputy Head Juggernaut - HIRU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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