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October - Fa;se Micspam Warn


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Your In-game: Zeta 

Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:455778278

 

The admin's name in-game: CI Major October

 

The admin's steam name (If you know it): N/A

 

What warning did you receive: Micspam

 

Evidence of the warn (REQUIRED):

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Why do you think this warn was false:

I believe this warn is false because I was not involved with the actual micspam. I told everyone to change their name to "monkey" for a joke, then they started making monkey sounds. October brought us ALL saying that we ALL mic spammed, when I was trying to speak normally when they were monkeying around. I told him this, but he refused to listen. We both were respectful to each other, so I think he was simply confused.  At the end, he gagged and warned me with the excuse that I had a micspam warn in the past (from November of 2019)  then gave the others a verbal warning.

Any extra information: I just want the warn removed, and him not to assume an entire group of people did something wrong when it's not provable and not reliably able to be measured.

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+ support 

Until october says something i think your incoccent and the actions your buds did was brought on themselves , you also did not instigate by telling the others to make money noises so there's also thats 

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So here is my side of the story, 3 GENSEC called me to d-block because of 4 players mic spamming. When I arrive I see 4 players with the name “Money (name).” Being that you when I brought you to a sit you were screaming and YOU gave the defense that all 4 of you were “speaking in your native language” (note: they were all screaming like monkeys) I assumed that all 4 of you were guilty. Secondly, I checked your warns and you had 1 warn on record for micspam, plus you got warned later that day for micspam, so if we follow precedent you did it. 

3 hours ago, NetworkParadox said:

it's not provable

So, when I arrived in d-block all 4 of you had your mics activated and you all had the same name. You even told me that you started this. Now I don’t record on duty, just because I don’t feel like being bothered to, but you had no recording to prove your innocence and considering that I saw everyone screaming I had no choice but to warn you. 

I would like to also add that you have no evidence to prove your innocence, nor to prove that this is false. 

Also, thank you to Inaccurate for @‘ing me so I could see this and respond quickly. 

TLDR -support 

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2 minutes ago, October said:

So here is my side of the story, 3 GENSEC called me to d-block because of 4 players mic spamming. When I arrive I see 4 players with the name “Money (name).” Being that you when I brought you to a sit you were screaming and YOU gave the defense that all 4 of you were “speaking in your native language” (note: they were all screaming like monkeys) I assumed that all 4 of you were guilty. Secondly, I checked your warns and you had 1 warn on record for micspam, plus you got warned later that day for micspam, so if we follow precedent you did it. 

So, when I arrived in d-block all 4 of you had your mics activated and you all had the same name. You even told me that you started this. Now I don’t record on duty, just because I don’t feel like being bothered to, but you had no recording to prove your innocence and considering that I saw everyone screaming I had no choice but to warn you. 

I would like to also add that you have no evidence to prove your innocence, nor to prove that this is false. 

Also, thank you to Inaccurate for @‘ing me so I could see this and respond quickly. 

TLDR -support 

Here''s my response, though firstly I'm laughing that you -support your own warn.


1. Yes I had my mic activated. I was talking normally to them, effectively saying "shush you monkeys". And I NEVER said that I was speaking my native language, they said that and I laughed at it because I thought it was funny. That's how humour works.

2. I said I told everyone to change their name to monkey. Never did I say to micspam.


3. You have no evidence to prove I was micspamming. No evidence or logic supports your claim. I fail to see why I need to record myself speaking amongst 4+ other people just to not get muted and gagged. It's not necessary, because you shouldn't have just "assumed" that I was micspamming with them because I wasn't

4. I had a warn for micspam LAST YEAR, I fail to see how a warn for micspam in 2019 would be 'evidence' for an event several months later. 

5. I was warned later in the day by another staff who once again falsely warned me, you can read that report if you're curious.

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-Support

From what people are putting here you are known for mic spamming so I have changed it to -Support

 

+/- Support leaning towards -Support

From what I am seeing, all 4 of you was screaming like monkeys? so that is mic spamming but if you was only warned then that is weird, why wasn't all 4 of you warned?

Also a staff member doesn't need proof for a warn but it does help.

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1 minute ago, MiniLeopard said:

+/- Support leaning towards -Support

From what I am seeing, all 4 of you was screaming like monkeys? so that is mic spamming but if you was only warned then that is weird, why wasn't all 4 of you warned?

Also a staff member doesn't need proof for a warn but it does help.

He wasn’t the only one warned for it btw. 

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2 minutes ago, MiniLeopard said:

+/- Support leaning towards -Support

From what I am seeing, all 4 of you was screaming like monkeys? so that is mic spamming but if you was only warned then that is weird, why wasn't all 4 of you warned?

Also a staff member doesn't need proof for a warn but it does help.

I wasn't screaming like a monkey, they were, I was only speaking normally.

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14 minutes ago, NetworkParadox said:

Here''s my response, though firstly I'm laughing that you -support your own warn.

I’m glad you found that funny, I put it in as a joke lol. 

14 minutes ago, NetworkParadox said:

I had a warn for micspam LAST YEAR, I fail to see how a warn for micspam in 2019 would be 'evidence' for an event several months later. 

I don’t know you that well. Staff use warns to see how you’ve acted in the past. You had 1 warn spam and 1 warn for radio minge (what I believe to be essentially mic spam). Since I don’t know you incredibly well I have to use your past warns to see what how you’ve acted. Yes people change, but there’s you have warns, so staff can use precedent to determine the situation. 

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1 hour ago, MiniLeopard said:

-Support

From what I am seeing, all 4 of you was screaming like monkeys? so that is mic spamming but if you was only warned then that is weird, why wasn't all 4 of you warned?

Also a staff member doesn't need proof for a warn but it does help.

I also have problems with you Micspamming on a regular basis.

 

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11 hours ago, [GL] Inaccurate said:

I also have problems with you Micspamming on a regular basis.

- Support

I witnessed spamming music through his mic. Not clips of it, full songs. He got warned twice on the same day, so it's not really a false warn if you know you were playing full songs through your mic.

 

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23 hours ago, MiniLeopard said:

-Support

From what people are putting here you are known for mic spamming so I have changed it to -Support

 

+/- Support leaning towards -Support

From what I am seeing, all 4 of you was screaming like monkeys? so that is mic spamming but if you was only warned then that is weird, why wasn't all 4 of you warned?

Also a staff member doesn't need proof for a warn but it does help.

 

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+Support i mean, Network has a point.

From what I know you dont have evidence of him mic spamming, and just because he has mic spammed in the past dosen't mean he 100% did it.

 

i'd say to just let it go and be on with it.

 

also if i may, i think you should record all of your conversations/sits to have proper evidence in the long run. just my pov.

might be a furry but might also not be

 

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Denied

Based on the testimony and lack of evidence provided refuting the validity of the warning I am denying this appeal. Staff members have the responsibility to handle incidents that occur in game based on their observations, server logs, and video evidence. A staff member observations, whether recorded or not, is sufficient evidence to back a warning being issued unless other evidence contradicts these observations, or proves them false.

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