[Hotwyer]Drake_The_Dragon Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) What you want to see? - Something I would absolutely love to see would be the nerfing of the Browning Auto 5 shotgun (tfa_browningauto5) Why should we add it? - The reason you should nerf is actually very simply.. It's absolutely broken. It one shots roughly half of the Gensec jobs, It has a very quick reload, It has extremely long range as well. What are the advantages of having this? - 1 - Gensec wont get absolutely destroyed instantly by one shotting shotguns || 2 - Gensec wont be getting camped by CI in LCZ/D-Block for almost an hour (No clue if this is even against the rules) || 3 - It'll make it possible to counter CI raids. || 4 - People can stop getting mad about how absolutely broken it is. Who is it mainly for? - This is mainly to benefit the foundation as a whole. With the large job changes that recently passed, the browning auto 5 has been absolutely tearing everything and everyone and is the main reason CI is even able to take D-block. Links to any content - N/A Edit 03/08/2020 - Just a note to those who have - Supported, I would strongly suggest watching to see how powerful it really is. Because when it comes to being a Gensec member, it is quite litterally one shotting majority of us. If not two shots us. And there is very little we can do to counter it. Edit 03/09/2020 - Some suggestions on how to resolve this problem can be simple. If not read below, I'll put them here. 1. Reduce the Damage so that it's not absolutely one shotting gensec when it takes over 5 mags to kill them 2. Reduce the bullet spread - There are A LOT of shotguns with 50' Barrels, but they're not snipers. Not even with slugs. 3. Reduce Fire Speed - Instead of Firing like a Spaz or a AA-12, make it fire like a Benelli 4. Another way to resolve it would be to impliment rules for D-block/LCZ so We don't get killed the moment we walk out of spawn. Potentially including - Upon initial entry, CI have 3 minutes to hold and escort D-class out into LCZ and are not eligible to return after this grace period. - They are not to shoot into the doorway of Security Bunks when it's opened - They are not to Sit in LCZ after breaching D-block for more then 10 minutes I'm sure more can be posted here but those are just some other suggestions Edited March 9, 2020 by [Hotwyer]Drake_The_Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalfunctioningTurnip Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 +Support Retired Gensec Captain/DHFTO | Vegetable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakub Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) how would you suggest nerfing it there is no reasonable way to nerf a gun to a point where the other guns are when it is built to be so powerfull. it already has only 4 shots in a mag Edited March 7, 2020 by Jakub Ex E11 COL, Ex A1 MAJ, Ex AHOTS, Ex Security 2LT, Ex Admin. Current CI 2LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Hotwyer]Drake_The_Dragon Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Jakub said: how would you suggest nerfing it there is no reasonable way to nerf a gun to where the other guns are when it is built to be so powerfull. it already has only 4 shots in a mag 1. Nerf the Damage 2. Increase spread 3. Heavily increase recoil - Three simple solutuons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakub Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 spread is appropriate for a 50 inch barrel and the recoil isn't a problem because it can easily be combated. You expect a shotgun to deal 20 damage? Ex E11 COL, Ex A1 MAJ, Ex AHOTS, Ex Security 2LT, Ex Admin. Current CI 2LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elysian Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 +Support Retired CPT ll Retired Staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 +Support [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionicle Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 -support 17 minutes ago, Jakub said: spread is appropriate for a 50 inch barrel and the recoil isn't a problem because it can easily be combated. You expect a shotgun to deal 20 damage? 25 minutes ago, Jakub said: how would you suggest nerfing it there is no reasonable way to nerf a gun to a point where the other guns are when it is built to be so powerfull. it already has only 4 shots in a mag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryolast Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 -/+ support I don't believe the gun is super powerful but more that it is a pain to deal with when there's 5 CI Shades raiding d block with them. I feel like a better solution to this problem would be to work on maybe having a set of rules CI must follow when raiding d block so Gensec actually doesn't get destroyed in d block or at least has somewhat of a chance. I have beat HOS Killaz In minecraft parkour 1v1s any times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief_ Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cryolast said: -/+ support I don't believe the gun is super powerful but more that it is a pain to deal with when there's 5 CI Shades raiding d block with them. I feel like a better solution to this problem would be to work on maybe having a set of rules CI must follow when raiding d block so Gensec actually doesn't get destroyed in d block or at least has somewhat of a chance. Head Admin SCP-RP || Event Team Overseer || Ethics Committee || Ex Security FTO 1LT || Ex Security Warden || Ex CI R&D Senior Agent || UMC Guest [LVL 0] || Former Research Researcher || Former DORSU || Former DOC || Former LCZ Manager || I aM sPeCiAl || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Cryolast said: -/+ support I don't believe the gun is super powerful but more that it is a pain to deal with when there's 5 CI Shades raiding d block with them. I feel like a better solution to this problem would be to work on maybe having a set of rules CI must follow when raiding d block so Gensec actually doesn't get destroyed in d block or at least has somewhat of a chance. Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APE Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 +Support Ret. Security Colonel || Ret. Head Warden || D-Class High Council || Former MTF Alpha 1 'Red Right Hand' Juliette 69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bread Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Should be nerfed slightly to be a bit more in line with other shotguns and it should be removed from shades. No point in them having it. Edited March 7, 2020 by Bread lol, lmao even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starr Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) How bout we decrease the damage a like by x1 or x2 then increase the mag size to like 5. literally just make it like the SPAS, its pretty much a auto shotty like the others anyway. I'm leaning to a +support but honestly I don't want to see this thing get hammered. 15 hours ago, Bread said: Shouldn't be nerfed but should be removed from shades. No point in them having it. Just nerf it and stop mass people from using it, we should go back to the sawed off meta cause it was more skillful honestly Edited March 8, 2020 by starr insert cliched signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Bread said: Shouldn't be nerfed but should be removed from shades. No point in them having it. This is my opinion as shades shouldn't be the best class in the game as they out-do Branch Commanders and $300 CC's Although while the shotgun is powerful and may need some small tuning it shouldn't be hammered because it'll slap an SO as many weapons can do that +/- Support Was Nu7 2LT Shot Once Was a Nu7 MSGT also was a CI Captain once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M8VP ツ Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 2 hours ago, starr said: How bout we decrease the damage a like by x1 or x2 then increase the mag size to like 5. literally just make it like the SPAS, its pretty much a auto shotty like the others anyway. I'm leaning to a +support but honestly I don't want to see this thing get hammered. Retired CI LTCMDR | Proud Enuzer | Roblox Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skela Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 3 hours ago, starr said: How bout we decrease the damage a like by x1 or x2 then increase the mag size to like 5. literally just make it like the SPAS, its pretty much a auto shotty like the others anyway. I'm leaning to a +support but honestly I don't want to see this thing get hammered. ^ yes. also please chill, I feel tension in this post so chill Yuh imm@ Thash Dat B¡tch!!*^€{ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a frog Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 -Support Im not trying to argue but you gonna get mad when shades use the gun but then theres like 10 cc's in the foundation in it when they kill ci and d class with it? E11 1LT []FORMER CI MAJOR[]Former MTF OMICRON-9 CAPTAIN[]Former Janitorial Low Command[]Former E11 HCMD[Former overseer of D4,Former experimental, Former E4]"The fuck is a ethics committee?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 +Support Nerfing it is needed, it is the most broken shotgun despite its limited shots per round. SCPRP Head of Staff Lead Discord Administrator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillers Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 +support, and i dont support nerfing it into oblivion, just so that its in-line with the other shotty's. "Without morals, are we truly any better than the things we've set ourselves to contain?" EX-Site Director | EX-Super Admin | EX-Event Team Lead | Otter Lover | Regardless of what SMT Says, not a furry. | R&D Senior Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bread Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) Since the damage was increased to .65, it shreds 200 175 in 5 shots. +Support Edited March 8, 2020 by Bread lol, lmao even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enuz 💣 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/7/2020 at 5:10 PM, [Hotwyer]Drake_The_Dragon said: 1. Nerf the Damage 2. Increase spread 3. Heavily increase recoil - Three simple solutuons Former Head of Janitorial | HCZ man geer | lvl 70 life wizard | Roblox Clothing Designer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giovanni Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 19 hours ago, Bread said: Since the damage was increased to .65, it shreds 200 175 in 5 shots. +Support Retired E11 CMDR | Retired Admin | CI CPT | Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggo0 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 19 hours ago, Bread said: Since the damage was increased to .65, it shreds 200 175 in 5 shots. +Support SCPRP Director of Logistics, Event Team | Former Nu7 2LT, Former Senior Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gh0pit Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/7/2020 at 9:23 PM, frog said: -Support Im not trying to argue but you gonna get mad when shades use the gun but then theres like 10 cc's in the foundation in it when they kill ci and d class with it? thats a very good point Frog, i think ill +support the suggestion so we don't have like 10 CC's in the foundation killing CI and D class with it using the auto 5 On 3/7/2020 at 8:11 PM, Skela said: ^ yes. also please chill, I feel tension in this post so chill i dont feel any tension Retired CMDR of Epsilon-11 D-Class Main/CI gang/RHO 36 Detective ~You say stop it, I say Gh0pit~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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