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What you want to see? - A new class devoted to giving non-donors access to only lower-power APC's and Tanks. 

Why should we add it? - USAF already has a means of introducing people to flying without making them donate; Basic Helicopter Pilot.
I think it'd be super useful to have something equivalent to that in the Army for its heavy armor, as it might help draw more people into staying in the future. (APC + Tanks) 

What are the advantages of having this? - Some people may be turned away from the fact they need to donate in order to have access to something that they might not even like. This should give them the ability to at least test it out and get used to it while at war before a make-or-break it decision.
With a variety in price and selection, one or two introductory APC's and an introductory tank may be something a player needs to not only stick around in the server but maybe even incentivize them into donating as well.

Who is it mainly for? - New Players

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Lawrence (MillitaryRP)

United States Air Force Brigadier General

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Honestly just no, currently jets and tanks are just killing the server at the moment. There will be 5 people on one side and over 10 on another and jets and tanks will be pulled out and its just not fun, making them non donator will just enhance this.


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Brigadier General of RU Core & RU DI WiN 

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There are already some classes with access to APC (Ex: USMC Crewman), as stated above as well making them widely available to the genpop, would just turn war into World of Tanks and Warplanes


United States Marine Corps Vice Commander Pyro

"It's Not A War Crime If You Don't Get Caught"

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1. Not my job to nerf them. If deemed necessary staff can 
- Change how many people can be on a job at once.
- Change Damage Values.
- Apply/create Cooldowns.
- Find better ways to counter them. Maybe even coordinate properly for once. Explosive specialist exists for a reason. (Who'da thought?)
If you don't want to deal with existing assets in a battlefield then don't play on a server that has an emphasis on modernized warfare and all that it entails. 
Complain to staff, not on my suggestion please. Your personal bias shouldn't be any reason to not allow new players a chance to experience things they may want to.

Jets are an entirely different pool party, you have to purchase them- but can be introduced to flying in general VIA Basic helicopter pilot.
And if you want to complain about only having 5 people, consult your own branches regarding activity.

Keep in mind, I'm not trying to give every newcomer a Paladin. Just a base tank or APC (i.e. magloader/armed humvee?) to let them see how things can get rolling. 

2. Tanks are still left out of the picture, unfortunately.


Lawrence (MillitaryRP)

United States Air Force Brigadier General

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You do know that -Supporting and suggestion is not complaining right? If you think it is then making suggestions aren’t the best for you. also you can’t change the damage modifiers on vehicles unless the add on has that built in.

also by making tanks and jets non donator I feel like at that point what is the point in donating, your literally not gonna get much out of it and you need to look at it from Scoot or Zeeptins view business wise.

”consult your own branches on activity” it’s not only a branch thing it’s all of RU. the reason they don’t get on is because getting constantly spawn camped isn’t fun, adding planes and tanks into that makes it even worse (and wow demoting or striking an enlisted that gonna get them!) Trust me if you looked at it from the RU’s perspective this would be totally different but thats besides the point, honestly though I’m not sure why you would make a post like this if people can’t express there opinion doesn’t really make any sense at all.

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Brigadier General of RU Core & RU DI WiN 

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2 hours ago, WiN said:

”consult your own branches on activity” it’s not only a branch thing it’s all of RU. the reason they don’t get on is because getting constantly spawn camped isn’t fun, adding planes and tanks into that makes it even worse (and wow demoting or striking an enlisted that gonna get them!) Trust me if you looked at it from the RU’s perspective this would be totally different but thats besides the point, honestly though I’m not sure why you would make a post like this if people can’t express there opinion doesn’t really make any sense at all.

The US doesn't spawn camp, and adding planes and tanks wouldn't make it worse. I have seen infantry easily take down planes, tanks, APCs, all of them. RU complained all the time on Desert Fury because we camped the one entrance to ghanzi, You had 3 other entrances. Not only that but APCs and some aircraft are already non-donor, but they're already restricted to specialized classes. I've already said I don't support this because we already have it, but I don't support your reasoning behind it. There would still be a reason to donate, he is saying there should be atleast 1 vehicle per type that could allow new users to test what donating has to offer, the armored humvee barely lasts a minute before being shot to hell, but if we have non-donators the ability to use it or try it out for a raised price, it could show them how the vehicles work and if it's worth donating to get a better APC then the weak humvee. We are also getting new rules regarding the usage of vehicles. If RU can not successfully defend against enemy armor or aircraft, that is a training problem, not a server problem.


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"It's Not A War Crime If You Don't Get Caught"

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You 100% don’t understand why we complain. We complain because anytime we are losing you guys say “Train you soldiers better” or “go around” ah yes trigger discipline and faces is really gonna make soldiers better. No it’s because numbers, and guess why no one was coming on because getting killed as soon as you leave spawn (Yes thats spawn camp not sure if you knew) isn’t fun. But anyways just last week it was 5 to 15 and the US already had 2 planes and 2 tanks out so all of RU just left because how is that fun. Saying “Go around” really doesn’t help the fact. I also do not care if you don’t support my reasoning behind it once again like I said with Lawrence if you can’t accept it then don’t comment about it, but honestly I’m speaking for all of RU and even some US will agree this happened all the time on desert fury. Luckily I haven’t seen anymore camping on the new map so I feel like that issue will be fixed with this map BUT I still heavily don’t support more jets or tanks at all.


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Brigadier General of RU Core & RU DI WiN 

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My bad, Win.
It seemed like a complaint more than anything initially.
"Tanks & Jets are killing the server" sounds like a total unfounded opinion, even with what you added onto it.


Lawrence (MillitaryRP)

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