Chief_ Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Please make sure suggestions are pertinent and relevant! What do you want to see? - That d-class can't hide in the cells and shoot at security then heal up. (waits a bit tho so it ain't in combat) Why should we add it? - Because, as of now there are more d-class getting access to cc's with snipers. The problem with them hiding in their cells is that its almost impossible for them to get shot. It is essentially shooting from their spawn. Which gensec/any other branch Can't do. It is fine with being behind the tower as they have the chance of being shot by a CM. What are the advantages of having this? - That it will be less hard on gensec with constantly being attacked by people in cells. Who is it mainly for? - Gensec Links to any content - Nope Head Admin SCP-RP || Event Team Overseer || Ethics Committee || Ex Security FTO 1LT || Ex Security Warden || Ex CI R&D Senior Agent || UMC Guest [LVL 0] || Former Research Researcher || Former DORSU || Former DOC || Former LCZ Manager || I aM sPeCiAl || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corners Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 -support Chief in my opinion I believe if they were not allowed to shoot from cells they would have 0 cover to fire from, now regarding combat healing I believe that D-Class CC's should not get medkits if their not allowed to already or just get staff to watch them if their combat healing. Loves Corners, Corner. Corner. Former Imperial Commandos VCMDR Fixer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief_ Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Gamer6 said: -support Chief in my opinion I believe if they were not allowed to shoot from cells they would have 0 cover to fire from, now regarding combat healing I believe that D-Class CC's should not get medkits if their not allowed to already or just get staff to watch them if their combat healing. If their medkits get taken away I will be fine with it. And they would have covering fire as they ahve the d-block tower and then the cafeteria. (Which doesnt classify as spawn for them as no d-class spawns in there) Head Admin SCP-RP || Event Team Overseer || Ethics Committee || Ex Security FTO 1LT || Ex Security Warden || Ex CI R&D Senior Agent || UMC Guest [LVL 0] || Former Research Researcher || Former DORSU || Former DOC || Former LCZ Manager || I aM sPeCiAl || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corners Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chief_ said: If their medkits get taken away I will be fine with it. And they would have covering fire as they ahve the d-block tower and then the cafeteria. (Which doesnt classify as spawn for them as no d-class spawns in there) Fair enough Loves Corners, Corner. Corner. Former Imperial Commandos VCMDR Fixer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAim Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 -Support There is a sniper job for a reason There are field medics for a reason Use your resources strategically and you can win 9/10 shootouts Retired Imperial RP Super Admin and Grand General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corners Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 23 minutes ago, BadAim said: -Support There is a sniper job for a reason There are field medics for a reason Use your resources strategically and you can win 9/10 shootouts Loves Corners, Corner. Corner. Former Imperial Commandos VCMDR Fixer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief_ Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 32 minutes ago, BadAim said: -Support There is a sniper job for a reason There are field medics for a reason Use your resources strategically and you can win 9/10 shootouts 1. Not everyone is trained for snipers. 2. Their arent 24/7 field medics in d-block. 3. It's hard to shoot you guys when you peek around a small corner in a cell and shoot at us. Also when there are 4 of you on and shoot us from multiple angles and what is technically considered your spawn. (BTW this is just explaining the counterparts to your post not trying to start an argument with you just saying what I see from the` security side. Head Admin SCP-RP || Event Team Overseer || Ethics Committee || Ex Security FTO 1LT || Ex Security Warden || Ex CI R&D Senior Agent || UMC Guest [LVL 0] || Former Research Researcher || Former DORSU || Former DOC || Former LCZ Manager || I aM sPeCiAl || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAim Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 My -Support still stands, DM me if you would like to go further with this Retired Imperial RP Super Admin and Grand General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker (Tavdogg1) Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 12 hours ago, Chief_ said: 1. Not everyone is trained for snipers. 2. Their arent 24/7 field medics in d-block. 3. It's hard to shoot you guys when you peek around a small corner in a cell and shoot at us. Also when there are 4 of you on and shoot us from multiple angles and what is technically considered your spawn. (BTW this is just explaining the counterparts to your post not trying to start an argument with you just saying what I see from the` security side. This is exactly on why D Class shouldn't be SHOOTING FROM SPAWN. This is breaking rules, and I don't believe that this slips by with no issue. Look upon the rules, and see that this is actually rule breaking. As such I give 100% +Support. D Class shouldn't be doing this at all. There are three types of people... There are hunters... There are prey... And then I, Alex B, comes back after so long to Security with the new name of Seeker that nobody remembers me anymore, but I don't care and I just want to shoot D-Class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) I mean you could just shoot them or scoot over so they can't hit you. Edited February 4, 2020 by Neo SCP-RP Moderator | CI LTCOL Boozle LC32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 -support Shooting from D-block is every limited in what you can hit, you have to be looking down into lower D-block to every be a possible target Don't stand on/close to the fence if you don't want to get shot You don't have to be the best, you just got to be better than dip shit over there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 -Support Not needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Fool said: -Support Not needed? Just back away from the edge? Edited February 4, 2020 by Ritz Was Nu7 2LT Shot Once Was a Nu7 MSGT also was a CI Captain once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dang Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 - support -The is a simple solution do not stand near the edge of the elevator or the edge of the fences and you wont have the sniper issue. -Also the d-class snipers do so little damage (42 damage max)that it shouldn't be a issue especially when there is always a medic healing the gensec or when gensec buy medkits. -In addition gensec have HUGE WEAPON advantages over d-class and CCs especially in damage so the sniping from spawn in my opinion is fine because of the disadvantage d-class have over gensec in weaponry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starr Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 -SUPPORT Ok first off, wha-... just... anyway. No, the contender and literally all other weapons that D-Class CC's are allowed to have are very underpowered compared to weapons GenSec/MTF have, also, that contender is nothing compared to getting shot by an actual rifle considering the damage dropoff and damage in general. It has taken beyond a normal amount of shots to kill GenSec comparing them killing me, the riot control M4A1 has outgunned me because of my stats and damage compared to theirs. Next, the only actual time that the contender is actually "worrying" is during a partial, in which is easy to dodge when you don't stand on the elevator and just obliviously look around on the ledge. Actually, also backing up how low damaging that contender is, I have literally shot an OFC with 4 shots from that thing while their standing on the elevator and they just stand there and look around like "oh I lost a little bit of HP/Armor, must of been a bug bite." Contender at mid-range, 40-46 damage Contender at long range, 30-32 damage Model 500 at mid-range, 30-35 damage Model 500 at long range, 23-27 damage See the competition there? Me neither. We also can't buy more medical supplies so we run out eventually Also, we have NLR Lastly, if this is such a big issue then don't have a partial for 45 minutes, as there was yesterday. Partial lockdowns are where they "shine" and if it's so difficult then make a hands up which screws us up more. insert cliched signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionicle Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 21 hours ago, starr said: -SUPPORT Ok first off, wha-... just... anyway. No, the contender and literally all other weapons that D-Class CC's are allowed to have are very underpowered compared to weapons GenSec/MTF have, also, that contender is nothing compared to getting shot by an actual rifle considering the damage dropoff and damage in general. It has taken beyond a normal amount of shots to kill GenSec comparing them killing me, the riot control M4A1 has outgunned me because of my stats and damage compared to theirs. Next, the only actual time that the contender is actually "worrying" is during a partial, in which is easy to dodge when you don't stand on the elevator and just obliviously look around on the ledge. Actually, also backing up how low damaging that contender is, I have literally shot an OFC with 4 shots from that thing while their standing on the elevator and they just stand there and look around like "oh I lost a little bit of HP/Armor, must of been a bug bite." Contender at mid-range, 40-46 damage Contender at long range, 30-32 damage Model 500 at mid-range, 30-35 damage Model 500 at long range, 23-27 damage See the competition there? Me neither. We also can't buy more medical supplies so we run out eventually Also, we have NLR Lastly, if this is such a big issue then don't have a partial for 45 minutes, as there was yesterday. Partial lockdowns are where they "shine" and if it's so difficult then make a hands up which screws us up more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catsro Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 -Support I don't really think this suggestion is really needed as most dclass with guns are CCs which have NLR. Then there is the pro d class which has the M1911 which isn't strong to begin with. The strength that Pro has is its ability to not have NLR. I don't really see this being a problem from shooting from cells. My advice would be to not stand at the fences so you don't get shot by the dclass at cells. SCPRP Head Admin | Ex SCPRP Event Team Leader | Ex CI LTCMDR | O5-13 Catsro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionicle Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 4:47 PM, Ritz said: Just back away from the edge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoopsure Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) On 2/3/2020 at 8:08 PM, BadAim said: -Support There is a sniper job for a reason There are field medics for a reason Use your resources strategically and you can win 9/10 shootouts Adding to this, they can only shoot you when you stand around the elevator or on the fence and look into block. I see no reason why this shouldn’t be allowed seeing as it’s so easy to completely avoid the snipers. Adding to what starr said earlier, I’ve seen it to where they had partial on for over 3 hours after they just had 2 full lockdowns, even after completely gassing all of dblock... if gensec are going to have a lockdown on for 3+ hours and mustard gas the entirety of dblock with 20+ gensec on, there is no reason why the CCs that paid for their weapons should have them removed. Edited February 7, 2020 by hoopsure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillers Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 -Support, you have snipers for a reason, and if they are combat healing, well then its already not allowed. "Without morals, are we truly any better than the things we've set ourselves to contain?" EX-Site Director | EX-Super Admin | EX-Event Team Lead | Otter Lover | Regardless of what SMT Says, not a furry. | R&D Senior Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 5:25 PM, starr said: -SUPPORT Ok first off, wha-... just... anyway. No, the contender and literally all other weapons that D-Class CC's are allowed to have are very underpowered compared to weapons GenSec/MTF have, also, that contender is nothing compared to getting shot by an actual rifle considering the damage dropoff and damage in general. It has taken beyond a normal amount of shots to kill GenSec comparing them killing me, the riot control M4A1 has outgunned me because of my stats and damage compared to theirs. Next, the only actual time that the contender is actually "worrying" is during a partial, in which is easy to dodge when you don't stand on the elevator and just obliviously look around on the ledge. Actually, also backing up how low damaging that contender is, I have literally shot an OFC with 4 shots from that thing while their standing on the elevator and they just stand there and look around like "oh I lost a little bit of HP/Armor, must of been a bug bite." Contender at mid-range, 40-46 damage Contender at long range, 30-32 damage Model 500 at mid-range, 30-35 damage Model 500 at long range, 23-27 damage See the competition there? Me neither. We also can't buy more medical supplies so we run out eventually Also, we have NLR Lastly, if this is such a big issue then don't have a partial for 45 minutes, as there was yesterday. Partial lockdowns are where they "shine" and if it's so difficult then make a hands up which screws us up more. SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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