Phillers Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) What you want to see? - A Buff to most SMG's, I know, a suggestion just like this was just denied. Igneous gave the reasoning for this being : "If you wish for individual guns to be changed, submit a suggestion SPECIFICALLY outlining what you want to happen to it. I'm not going to individually check every weapon on the server and figure out which need balancing." So, naturaly, i took an entire morning to individually check every weapon on the server and figure out which need balancing. Data is here for those who wish to see it. Keep in mind, The time to kill is checked by full bodyshots on a unmoving target, so pretty much every bullet lands. So, lets list the weapons i believe could use a buff/Nerf. First off, The Magpull. As of current this thing is really more an Assault Rifle then an SMG, thats fine, and can be kept as it is if thats what you are going for. If not, buff RPM and nerf the damage. UMP-45 (TFA SMG's) , largely a "Meh" weapon, due to low mag size, long reload time, and low damage. My suggestion, increase the damage a bit ( Think to 13-15) and a slightly larger RPM, to about 700. AAC-Honeybadger, This thing is currently trying to be both an Assault Rifle and a SMG, and thats just not ok. I reccomend either going for AR by raising DMG to 16 and lowering RPM to 650, or for SGM lowering Damage to 13 and raising RPM to 900. I would reccomend going for AR tough as its reload is frustratingly long. Bizon PP-19 (TFA SMG's). Its got a nice mag size, just doesn't have the RPM to work with it. You would die before you can spend your mag. I reccomend raising RPM to 950 and lowering DMG to 6-7 STEN. Either needs more damage or higher RPM to be actualy useable, as of current just looks nice and thats it. The MP-7 (TFA SMG's). Either buff Mag size or buff damage/RPM, currently not very viable as a good weapon. The others are quite OK, and feel good enough to me. Why should we add it? - More Balance What are the advantages of having this? - Read previous statement Who is it mainly for? - Everyone with a gun. Links to any content - N/A Edited January 1, 2020 by Falxen "Without morals, are we truly any better than the things we've set ourselves to contain?" EX-Site Director | EX-Super Admin | EX-Event Team Lead | Otter Lover | Regardless of what SMT Says, not a furry. | R&D Senior Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 -/+Support Kinda funny how you said "SMG Buffs" but half those weapons you wanted a damage nerf, while having a raised RPM would mean more bullets are fired, you also have to keep in mind how big the clip is, you don't want to be reloading every 3 seconds due to a fast fire rate and shite damage. Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corners Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 10:55 AM, Gunther said: -/+Support Kinda funny how you said "SMG Buffs" but half those weapons you wanted a damage nerf, while having a raised RPM would mean more bullets are fired, you also have to keep in mind how big the clip is, you don't want to be reloading every 3 seconds due to a fast fire rate and shite damage. Loves Corners, Corner. Corner. Former Imperial Commandos VCMDR Fixer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Dtscalice Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 11:55 AM, Gunther said: -/+Support Kinda funny how you said "SMG Buffs" but half those weapons you wanted a damage nerf, while having a raised RPM would mean more bullets are fired, you also have to keep in mind how big the clip is, you don't want to be reloading every 3 seconds due to a fast fire rate and shite damage. Truth is just a matter of perspective. The duty of every soldier is to protect the innocent ~Captain Price (Modern Warfare 2) Former CMD Positions: E11 1LT, Medical Chief Manager, CI LT and SRIC, Alpha 1 CPL, RRH Squad Lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M8VP ツ Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 9:55 AM, Gunther said: -/+Support Kinda funny how you said "SMG Buffs" but half those weapons you wanted a damage nerf, while having a raised RPM would mean more bullets are fired, you also have to keep in mind how big the clip is, you don't want to be reloading every 3 seconds due to a fast fire rate and shite damage. Retired CI LTCMDR | Proud Enuzer | Roblox Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 9:55 AM, Gunther said: -/+Support Kinda funny how you said "SMG Buffs" but half those weapons you wanted a damage nerf, while having a raised RPM would mean more bullets are fired, you also have to keep in mind how big the clip is, you don't want to be reloading every 3 seconds due to a fast fire rate and shite damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker (Tavdogg1) Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 10:55 AM, Gunther said: -/+Support Kinda funny how you said "SMG Buffs" but half those weapons you wanted a damage nerf, while having a raised RPM would mean more bullets are fired, you also have to keep in mind how big the clip is, you don't want to be reloading every 3 seconds due to a fast fire rate and shite damage. Yeah it's an SMG. They are supposed to have fast fire rate. But that is like saying that you should be allowed to RDM just because you can kill anybody in real life. Unless you have a headshots = instant death or at least a better ability to shred armor, the SMGs are fine the way they are. -Support There are three types of people... There are hunters... There are prey... And then I, Alex B, comes back after so long to Security with the new name of Seeker that nobody remembers me anymore, but I don't care and I just want to shoot D-Class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 +SupportSmgs are currently to underpowered to be functional, like why spend 2500 on an smg, when you can spend that on an assault rifle-SupportSmgs are meant to be cheap yet fast guns, these are meant for classes like janitorial or research, not MTF or gensecBuffing these means they have to ban SMGs from research The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dang Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 4:55 PM, Gunther said: -/+Support Kinda funny how you said "SMG Buffs" but half those weapons you wanted a damage nerf, while having a raised RPM would mean more bullets are fired, you also have to keep in mind how big the clip is, you don't want to be reloading every 3 seconds due to a fast fire rate and shite damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Admin Weiss Posted February 3, 2020 Head Admin Share Posted February 3, 2020 On 1/29/2020 at 2:01 PM, Panda0Playz said: +SupportSmgs are currently to underpowered to be functional, like why spend 2500 on an smg, when you can spend that on an assault rifle-SupportSmgs are meant to be cheap yet fast guns, these are meant for classes like janitorial or research, not MTF or gensecBuffing these means they have to ban SMGs from research I would not ban them. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 On 1/29/2020 at 5:01 PM, Panda0Playz said: +SupportSmgs are currently to underpowered to be functional, like why spend 2500 on an smg, when you can spend that on an assault rifle-SupportSmgs are meant to be cheap yet fast guns, these are meant for classes like janitorial or research, not MTF or gensecBuffing these means they have to ban SMGs from research You Funny but +Support Former "Foundation Doctor and a Medical Doctor are 2 god damn different things." -Light "Can you heal me."-Entire Foundation "Ok Sophia"-Arium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 On 2/3/2020 at 1:01 AM, Weiss said: I would not ban them. >_> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ternith Plague Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 11:55 AM, Gunther said: -/+Support Kinda funny how you said "SMG Buffs" but half those weapons you wanted a damage nerf, while having a raised RPM would mean more bullets are fired, you also have to keep in mind how big the clip is, you don't want to be reloading every 3 seconds due to a fast fire rate and shite damage. Author of the OFFICIAL Thing's Rangiatea is not Allowed to do at the Foundation (THRAF) Former SCP-RP Staff, Event Team, Teamspeak Support Member Current Riot Trooper Officer, Stormtrooper Sergeant First Class - ImperialRP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I mean at this point weapon balancing is a lot better in my eyes and someone has a similar suggestion with more detail so I'll use this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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