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What you want to see? -  The Negev nerfed in either damage or fire rate

Why should we add it? - The Negev has always been a heavily over powered weapon with the ability to not even need to take cover due to the amount of damage spewed out of the weapon. requiring a large outnumbering to make it fair. this weapon has 14K at the armory, a blacklisted weapon for ET , and is only on 1 vip job that REQUIRES PLATINUM VIP and it only has a max limit of 3 people.

What are the advantages of having this? - make the gun used more tactically instead of being the suicidal rush weapon that can wipe out mobs of anyone in there way.

Who is it mainly for? - the entire server

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+/- SUPPORT

- support: I understand where you're coming from with this but then again, it's an LMG, a person used to have to pay $80 for a CC for it (now it's more and not including the other prices to make the CC actually live through gun fights.) Though I sort of understand the "suicidal rush" part you talk about it's still just how the weapon is, and in reality I see this as more of an slight annoyance because I've seen even amounts of losses and wins with classes (and branches) with this gun. It's very rare that it actually just murders everyone in the general area without damage being put out to the person using it or dying eventually. It becomes a situation as well as where people will now probably start on the trend of just nerfing all the weapons that people (most of the time) work hard for to get are just sledged into the ground and become useless

+support: However, I will say that with this whole new system of people just putting out tryouts for CC's and people coming out of nowhere with around $1000 to put on a CC then give the most OP stuff out for free is annoying (especially considering some of the people that are in those CC's with those types of advantages) but as well as that those rare occasions with the absolute destruction of the people in a small area can really just make or break the entire server (or task for CI or MTF/GenSec) and that becomes a huge issue where one gun is enough to have to put more focus on the person with a negev or group they're with than a keter case (besides 682 most likely). Though like I said in the last sentence in the first, a nerf may be necessary, but not a sledge into the ground kind of one.

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3 minutes ago, Official Orange said:

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The negev is best a point blank range with every few steps getting weaker and weaker due to the recoil and bullet spread. The sawed off is able to out preform a negev, if used right, as well as assault rifles used at a relative range.

Perhaps just upping the price of the negev in the armories?

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7 minutes ago, Official Orange said:

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The negev is best a point blank range with every few steps getting weaker and weaker due to the recoil and bullet spread. The sawed off is able to out preform a negev, if used right, as well as assault rifles used at a relative range.

Simple solution is to up the price not to nerf it.

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21 minutes ago, Official Orange said:

-Support

The negev is best a point blank range with every few steps getting weaker and weaker due to the recoil and bullet spread. The sawed off is able to out preform a negev, if used right, as well as assault rifles used at a relative range.

Its impossible to control as well, i broke @Fool’s ankles in a 1v1 when he was using it once

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2 hours ago, killermankey said:

What you want to see? -  The Negev nerfed in either damage or fire rate

Why should we add it? - The Negev has always been a heavily over powered weapon with the ability to not even need to take cover due to the amount of damage spewed out of the weapon. requiring a large outnumbering to make it fair. this weapon has 14K at the armory, a blacklisted weapon for ET , and is only on 1 vip job that REQUIRES PLATINUM VIP and it only has a max limit of 3 people.

What are the advantages of having this? - make the gun used more tactically instead of being the suicidal rush weapon that can wipe out mobs of anyone in there way.

Who is it mainly for? - the entire server

Links to any content - N/A

+Support
Reason: Yeah. I want to use it too. Give us the ability to use it in events, please.

How to improve on the post: Good post, good grammar, but over powered need to be one word. That is all I am going to say.

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It's an LMG, it's supposed to be high damage low range. 

Besides, it costs so much. It'll make a huge dent in your wallet unless you AFK farm money.

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3 hours ago, Catsro said:

Simple solution is to up the price not to nerf it.

-Support due to the fact that it's only useful up close. 

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9 hours ago, Official Orange said:

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The negev is best a point blank range with every few steps getting weaker and weaker due to the recoil and bullet spread. The sawed off is able to out preform a negev, if used right, as well as assault rifles used at a relative range.

 

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You literally cancelled yourself by saying that it costs 15k and is on only 1 PLATINIUM job with 3 people playing at a time. 

Also, every time I try to do a suicidal rush, I end up being deatroyed cause of the damage some guns have or if theres way more of them. 

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18 hours ago, Official Orange said:

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The negev is best a point blank range with every few steps getting weaker and weaker due to the recoil and bullet spread. The sawed off is able to out preform a negev, if used right, as well as assault rifles used at a relative range.

 

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This has been denied a lot of times, I don't want to repeat myself why that is.

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20 hours ago, Official Orange said:

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The negev is best a point blank range with every few steps getting weaker and weaker due to the recoil and bullet spread. The sawed off is able to out preform a negev, if used right, as well as assault rifles used at a relative range.

 

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20 hours ago, Official Orange said:

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The negev is best a point blank range with every few steps getting weaker and weaker due to the recoil and bullet spread. The sawed off is able to out preform a negev, if used right, as well as assault rifles used at a relative range.

 

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20 hours ago, Official Orange said:

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The negev is best a point blank range with every few steps getting weaker and weaker due to the recoil and bullet spread. The sawed off is able to out preform a negev, if used right, as well as assault rifles used at a relative range.

 

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+Support, with the fact that 90% of all CC's have a Negev, the balance of power is severely broken now. There's a reason it is 15k in the armory, and a Platinum rank class has it. Its an OP weapon, and because now that at least 20 CC's have it, its just unfair at this point.

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On 11/25/2019 at 8:40 PM, Official Orange said:

-Support

The negev is best a point blank range with every few steps getting weaker and weaker due to the recoil and bullet spread. The sawed off is able to out preform a negev, if used right, as well as assault rifles used at a relative range.

 

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A lot of people tend to not understand what this magical thing called "Weapon Balance" is. Not every gun is meant to be powerful. Not every gun is meant to be weak. And most importantly, Not every gun is meant to be the same. Weapons are supposed to be good for different reasons. While yes, the Negev is an extremely powerful weapon, it is only that powerful if you are very close to your target. If you're going up against an Assault rifle down a corridor, you're not going to win that fight. Each weapon should have a playstyle, and just because one weapon excels in a certain style, doesn't mean it should be nerfed. While I am in no means saying that all weapons are balanced, I'm saying that a lot of people seem to lack an understanding of this concept. For argument's sake, I nerf the Negev. Then, another LMG would become the best LMG in the server and people would start using that weapon instead. And then what? I nerf that one too? 

 

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