Reznov Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 What you want to see? - The rule that forbids D class from adverting be re worked to they can only advert in specific RP scenarios. A example being having a site staff at gunpoint under fear RP and being able to do /me takes radio and use it accordingly. Now obviously the rule that d class not being able to advert should be still enforced the only way would be able to gain access to the radio advert system is to perform the /me takes radio and or comms device on a site personnel that has a radio. Now of course only the holder of said radio would be able to use it so not all d class in the area start adverting. Why should we add it? - It would allow a gateway of RP for d class that is impossible at the moment. What are the advantages of having this? - Actually be able to RP as d class instead of just run and gun like usual. A example was today I was in a scenario where a AHOT my self and 8 other d class were held up in the armory. The AHOT was at gunpoint by multiple d class and I did /me takes radio. I then went on to broadcast a message on the foundation channel * that it was already on * and create a hostage situation. Sadly I was then told I am not allowed to advert as d class as its a rule even tho I had a RP reason to do so. Who is it mainly for? - D class Links to any content - none Founder of Reznov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief_ Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Ok, this is what I say. It makes sense. But it can be very mingy. But if you guys don't have restraints and try to strip something you guys have to roll. And I did that with rang and lost so I found nothing. So unless you guys follow that (don't think you guys will get restraints due to possible restraint mingyness and rushing with it) +/- support (nothin personnel) Head Admin SCP-RP || Event Team Overseer || Ethics Committee || Ex Security FTO 1LT || Ex Security Warden || Ex CI R&D Senior Agent || UMC Guest [LVL 0] || Former Research Researcher || Former DORSU || Former DOC || Former LCZ Manager || I aM sPeCiAl || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susel Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) -support on the comms part. It would be tottaly overpowered if dclass could just take comms from anyone, since gensec and researchers die in dblock all the time, so taking comms from any foundation would be OP. About the FearRP part, just use /y or yell in voice chat "FEARRP" twice or thrice. EDIT: In the first part I mean comms AND radio Edited November 11, 2019 by SuselMaks Susel - Retired MTF person - "Teamwork makes the dream work" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker (Tavdogg1) Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 +/- Support Reason: Sure, it will be difficult to keep an eye on, but the idea of some D Class holding someone hostage and demanding something through comms, forcing Foundation staff to act, is a interesting concept and could allow for better roleplay. We should allow staff to tell D Class to stop minging on radio if they are minging on radio, and allow us to OOC punish them if they are minging on radio. How to improve the post: Pretty good post. Grammer is on point and format remains what it should be. 1 There are three types of people... There are hunters... There are prey... And then I, Alex B, comes back after so long to Security with the new name of Seeker that nobody remembers me anymore, but I don't care and I just want to shoot D-Class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznov Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 @SuselMaks you wouldn't be allowed to take it off of dead personnel, the radio would have been damaged in the combat. Founder of Reznov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 +support Would add some RP to d-class even during riots and breakouts as they could take a hostage and attempt to use it to bargain for their freedom (that would only be for a high command whose held hostage) Would have to have some restrictions in place like no taking off of dead bodies Was Nu7 2LT Shot Once Was a Nu7 MSGT also was a CI Captain once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catsro Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Alex B (Tavdogg11) said: +/- Support Reason: Sure, it will be difficult to keep an eye on, but the idea of some D Class holding someone hostage and demanding something through comms, forcing Foundation staff to act, is a interesting concept and could allow for better roleplay. We should allow staff to tell D Class to stop minging on radio if they are minging on radio, and allow us to OOC punish them if they are minging on radio. How to improve the post: Pretty good post. Grammer is on point and format remains what it should be. SCPRP Head Admin | Ex SCPRP Event Team Leader | Ex CI LTCMDR | O5-13 Catsro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAim Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Alex B (Tavdogg11) said: +/- Support Reason: Sure, it will be difficult to keep an eye on, but the idea of some D Class holding someone hostage and demanding something through comms, forcing Foundation staff to act, is a interesting concept and could allow for better roleplay. We should allow staff to tell D Class to stop minging on radio if they are minging on radio, and allow us to OOC punish them if they are minging on radio. How to improve the post: Pretty good post. Grammer is on point and format remains what it should be. +support Retired Imperial RP Super Admin and Grand General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susel Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 hours ago, BuckBe said: @SuselMaks you wouldn't be allowed to take it off of dead personnel, the radio would have been damaged in the combat. Okay thag changes things, but my opinion is that it can only be taken under FearRP Susel - Retired MTF person - "Teamwork makes the dream work" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznov Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, SuselMaks said: Okay thag changes things, but my opinion is that it can only be taken under FearRP yes I agree thats what im proposing Founder of Reznov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 9 hours ago, Alex B (Tavdogg11) said: +/- Support Reason: Sure, it will be difficult to keep an eye on, but the idea of some D Class holding someone hostage and demanding something through comms, forcing Foundation staff to act, is a interesting concept and could allow for better roleplay. We should allow staff to tell D Class to stop minging on radio if they are minging on radio, and allow us to OOC punish them if they are minging on radio. How to improve the post: Pretty good post. Grammer is on point and format remains what it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief_ Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just gonna mention something. You can't steal it off trainees or trainers. Also, to fear-rp someone you will need to use a gun and if they have a gun out or is 3 people. 2 is they don't have a gun out. Head Admin SCP-RP || Event Team Overseer || Ethics Committee || Ex Security FTO 1LT || Ex Security Warden || Ex CI R&D Senior Agent || UMC Guest [LVL 0] || Former Research Researcher || Former DORSU || Former DOC || Former LCZ Manager || I aM sPeCiAl || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real lunar Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 +support I would like an easy way for dclass to broadcast they have a hostage, it would also give mtf more of a chance to use their breach training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakub Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 -support, i don't see how this would improve rp in any sort of way. It would just insite more frequent riots and degrade the rp for those want to research and be researched on Ex E11 COL, Ex A1 MAJ, Ex AHOTS, Ex Security 2LT, Ex Admin. Current CI 2LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Alpha_ Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 10:58 AM, Ritz said: +support Would add some RP to d-class even during riots and breakouts as they could take a hostage and attempt to use it to bargain for their freedom (that would only be for a high command whose held hostage) Would have to have some restrictions in place like no taking off of dead bodies Former DHOS Current GENSEC LTCOL - Deputy Head Juggernaut - HIRU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticDN Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 -Support D-Class are already OP as it is, this would only make things harder for GenSec since they can barely hold their own during riots sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggo0 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 4:42 PM, Jakub said: -support, i don't see how this would improve rp in any sort of way. It would just insite more frequent riots and degrade the rp for those want to research and be researched on On 11/14/2019 at 10:07 AM, MysticDN said: -Support D-Class are already OP as it is, this would only make things harder for GenSec since they can barely hold their own during riots sometimes SCPRP Director of Logistics, Event Team | Former Nu7 2LT, Former Senior Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 +Support The class D deal with problems involving heavy GenSec and MTF presence in LCZ, I feel like they deserve the right to FearRP away a radio and use it, it doesn’t seem fair for all of MTF and GenSec to communicate everywhere class D are, and yet D class can’t communicate it back on any kind of comma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Train Overlord Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Concept is something I dig 100%. Been in a few Hostage situations during downtime and it makes for some interesting RP. Few downsides. Mainly of how people are kidnapped and method of stealing Radios. Im guessing Radio's are stolen VIA /me when a guard is nearby. And while this usually may be alright. It would be easily abused with no way (staff side) to figure out if it was valid or not. Example, walking up to a AFK guard and do /me Steals radio. Or perhaps walk up to any MTF or Foundation and doing the same command and slipping by. It's too easy. Another issue is the amusement of having the Radios. I can already see D-Class hiding in the lower cells with a Radio blurting whatever comes in their mind generally being a nonsense to the foundation without a Hostage and the Foundation with no method to stop them. Another issue (racking up here), is the methods of kidnapping. Kidnaps in RP are rare and are generally well done thanks to experienced D-class but adding this is going to cause them to become more frequent. New D-Class or mingey ones are going to do Kidnapping raids and it will spiral out of control. Staff sits are going to be increased dramatically with rules such as 'fear rp', 'power gaming' and similar rules are going to clash with this suggestion and someone is going to walk away unhappy. D-Class thinking is rather simple and easy to predict. For the most part, there is only one thing D-Class want to do "ESCAPE, ESCAPE, ESCAPE, KILL GUARD, KILL GUARD, SCREAM, SCREAM, SCREAM (not saying this is for everyone, more focused towards the other side of behaviour of D-Class). However, the addition of radios given how easy it is compared to the current existing options and entertaining is going to shift their attention to 'STEAL RADIO, STEAL RADIO, STEAL RADIO, FAILRP, FAILRP, CALL STAFF'. Only to be let down when Staff can't prove anything. While I dig the concept on paper, unfortunately it would be more trouble then its worth to add. Im more then happy to change my opinion if rule additions prevent these issues from occurring.- Support Edited November 21, 2019 by Train Overlord 1 Nothing special here, move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starr Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 On 11/11/2019 at 2:38 AM, Chief_ said: Ok, this is what I say. It makes sense. But it can be very mingy. But if you guys don't have restraints and try to strip something you guys have to roll. And I did that with rang and lost so I found nothing. So unless you guys follow that (don't think you guys will get restraints due to possible restraint mingyness and rushing with it) +/- support insert cliched signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killermankey Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 10:58 AM, Ritz said: +support Would add some RP to d-class even during riots and breakouts as they could take a hostage and attempt to use it to bargain for their freedom (that would only be for a high command whose held hostage) Would have to have some restrictions in place like no taking off of dead bodies RETINA BURN BOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rektify Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 4:50 AM, Alex B (Tavdogg11) said: +/- Support Reason: Sure, it will be difficult to keep an eye on, but the idea of some D Class holding someone hostage and demanding something through comms, forcing Foundation staff to act, is a interesting concept and could allow for better roleplay. We should allow staff to tell D Class to stop minging on radio if they are minging on radio, and allow us to OOC punish them if they are minging on radio. How to improve the post: Pretty good post. Grammer is on point and format remains what it should be. ~Your Local SCP Lead Admin~ Aka: Rekti-HighThe REAL Don Godfather 527 | CEO of the Minge Team | The Baby Joe | Leader of the Fish Mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuki Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 8:58 AM, Ritz said: +support Would add some RP to d-class even during riots and breakouts as they could take a hostage and attempt to use it to bargain for their freedom (that would only be for a high command whose held hostage) Would have to have some restrictions in place like no taking off of dead bodies [SCPRP]Retired Security Captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I'm sorry this is just way too easily abused and I feel it wouldn't stop with just radios and people would start trying to rp steal peoples weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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