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Your In-game: Ender

 

Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:456031274

 

The admin's name in-game: ReaperLite

 

The admin's steam name (If you know it): N/A

 

What warning did you receive: RDM

 

Evidence of the warn (REQUIRED): https://gaminglight.com/bans/player/76561198872328277

 

Why do you think this warn was false: I was driving the President around and Protecting him because of me and MAJ Adams. No SS or FBI was on, some and Adams decided to protect him. There was a UMC Car following me for a good duration, knowing the history of UMC in my present life I considered them dangerous to myself and the President. After they attempted to interrupt the 'convoy' and continued to follow us I decided to stop and which the UMC also did and opened fire. In my advert, it says, " Presidential Convoy - Interuptions AOS/KOS"

UMC was attempting and did interrupt the convoy and like I said their history isn't friendly. After multiple attempts by me to avoid them, I opened fire due to the situation and adverting. I was brought a while after by ReaperLite and Jayden, who showed me a video of me killing him after he was following and attempted to interrupt. 

To sum up, I killed him because he was following the President and attempted to interrupt multiple times along with UMC history in my current life I decided to Protect the President and eliminate the threat. I hope you understand everything I said and thank you for looking over this.

 

Any extra information: If @Jayden could link the video that would give more detail.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSJfVBoLtfg&feature=youtu.be

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First, I would like to clarify that my physgun grab on the President was accidental, because Ender's first response to having been shown the evidence was that I was abusing staff powers. He went straight to accusing me.

But anyway, from my point of view, I did absolutely nothing wrong here. It is not as if I am constantly ramming the vehicle. There is plenty of distance and I am unarmed while driving. They immediately start to open fire on me, blow up my vehicle, and even after having exited the vehicle I still was being shot at, without me even attempting to pull my gun out. Your advert claims "[Advert] Moderator| SPMD SNRP Ender 1M10:  Presidential Convoy - Interuptions AOS/KOS". I don't believe you even had the right to shoot me. Even if you did shoot, the better alternative would have been a taze (AOS), but that didn't happen at all. You took an innocent life for simply following your vehicle, having a criminal history, exiting the vehicle once, and stopping when you did. That isn’t enough to take an innocent life when AOS is the clear option in the situation.

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1 minute ago, Jayden said:

First, I would like to clarify that my physgun grab on the President was accidental, because Ender's first response to having been shown the evidence was that I was abusing staff powers. He went straight to accusing me.

I asked if you were or possibly did,  I did not accuse you. 

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17 hours ago, EnderKnight57 said:

 

I asked if you were or possibly did,  I did not accuse you. 

Your first response was that your problem was that I was abusing my power and I explained to you that it was an accident. If you clearly saw me grab him why would you ask? I don't intend to argue on forums so I'm just stating what I heard.

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From the video evidence given to me it was RDM. He got out the car no gun he didnt make contact with the car in the video I went of what I seen and what I seen was RDM. 

 

 

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Just now, [GL] Mikey said:

-Support the video provided shows RDM

I understand from the video POV but everything that leads up to that affected it as I stated.

 

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He didnt ram the charger and that charger is not the president escort. And you cannot kos anyone for that reason. Has to be directly contacted on the convoy. And when he got out no gun and got shot that's Plain RDM fron my POV. and if the charger was apart of the convoy that's not allowed Pd cant guard the president.  He was even running with no gun for awhile and still being shot at. 

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BTW, If I may add align with everything else, you did “drift”, stop and get out of the car and kinda walk towards my car at the cabin. Which made me think you were even more of a threat. 

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"There's a fine line between right and wrong. And somewhere, in the shadows, they've sent us to find it."

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+Support the video shows him following the president. in prodicale we can do anything to protect the president if we feel he is at risk. Ender was following prodicale because the UMC is on a wack list and the car is marked with UMC so he is allowed to open fire if he follows the convoy for a long period of time.  

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On 11/7/2019 at 3:07 PM, Jayden said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSJfVBoLtfg&feature=youtu.be

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First, I would like to clarify that my physgun grab on the President was accidental, because Ender's first response to having been shown the evidence was that I was abusing staff powers. He went straight to accusing me.

But anyway, from my point of view, I did absolutely nothing wrong here. It is not as if I am constantly ramming the vehicle. There is plenty of distance and I am unarmed while driving. They immediately start to open fire on me, blow up my vehicle, and even after having exited the vehicle I still was being shot at, without me even attempting to pull my gun out. Your advert claims "[Advert] Moderator| SPMD SNRP Ender 1M10:  Presidential Convoy - Interuptions AOS/KOS". I don't believe you even had the right to shoot me. Even if you did shoot, the better alternative would have been a taze (AOS), but that didn't happen at all. You took an innocent life for simply following your vehicle, having a criminal history, exiting the vehicle once, and stopping when you did. That isn’t enough to take an innocent life when AOS is the clear option in the situation.

 

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On 11/7/2019 at 12:59 AM, Sion said:

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He rammed the charge and was a direct threat seeing how he kept following the main car.

Adverts did say 'KOS' so

 

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On 11/7/2019 at 1:45 PM, Jimmy James said:

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Based on the evidence provided this shows RDM. Jayden never made any direct threat to your life or the presidents. He never had a gun out and hit an abandoned car then you opened fire on him. 

While the video did show RDM in my mind, I do also think that this is also false. I couldn't see any adverts that said KOS (could have been the resolution I was watching at), but with out any other context or evidence, I will have to -Support this.

Sorry Ender, good luck.

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Adverts don't excuse roleplay in the advert it says "AOS/KOS" for a reason, If someone approaches the presidential convoy unarmed and is showing no real hostile intent (Threats, Gun out, ETC)  you should arrest the person. And in the video evidence provided there was no immediate threat to the president. Alternatively if you truly thought the president was in danger you should have returned him to his chambers.   

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Not a staff on policeRP but that looks like an interrupt  you grabbing may or may not count as an interrupt  a few staff are in this group so they could be very biased in that it shows you going to pick up the president even though that happens to everyone when you ran up to the president the way you did it could've looked like you were gonna attack it looked like a better safe then sorry thing.

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