Gunther Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) What you want to see? - I want to see it to where MTF-based CC's can't come into the LCZ whenever, or at least have to follow the Gensec called rule. Why should we add it? - Its unfair. Having a CC with 200 health and armor, a Negev, and other weapons camping in D-Block, when normally other MTF can't enter unless their escorting or called to D-Block, makes escaping as a D-Class next to impossible. And considering how half of the CC's are MTF based, this makes it extremely unfair for D-Class. What are the advantages of having this? - D-Class have a chance, and MTF CC's won't be exempt from a MTF-based rule. An exception from this is Legion, despite having MTF-level clearance, he serves the Foundation as a whole, not just MTF. Who is it mainly for? - MTF CC's Links to any content - Edited September 12, 2019 by Gunther Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ vσxιs ~ Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 +SUPPORT I have noticed a lot of the time D Class do seem to complain about MTF being in there with custom jobs (mostly they complain anyway but I have seen the complaint with my own two eyes before) and I do believe that they need to follow all MTF based rules such as this one. As you said it would definitely make being a D Class so much easier and much much more fair in the end because then they wouldn't have to fight through an entire army just to be shot in the hallway behind the doors at D Block. To add even further to this, I also dont believe that MTF should be able to camp the intersection next to D Block because if D Class worked so hard to get passed the Security, then they immediately get shot down upon leaving D Block. It's my forward opinion and I believe this should be 100% accepted. “The only way that we can live is if we grow. The only way we can grow is if we change. The only way we can change is if we learn. The only way we can learn is if we are exposed. And the only way that we are exposed is if we throw ourselves into the open.” — C. Joybell || Proud Member of GamingLight since March 2018 || || Former MTF Alpha-1 MAJ || Former NSA Director || Former MTF E-11 CPL || Former SWAT CMDR || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catsro Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Voxis said: +SUPPORT I have noticed a lot of the time D Class do seem to complain about MTF being in there with custom jobs (mostly they complain anyway but I have seen the complaint with my own two eyes before) and I do believe that they need to follow all MTF based rules such as this one. As you said it would definitely make being a D Class so much easier and much much more fair in the end because then they wouldn't have to fight through an entire army just to be shot in the hallway behind the doors at D Block. To add even further to this, I also dont believe that MTF should be able to camp the intersection next to D Block because if D Class worked so hard to get passed the Security, then they immediately get shot down upon leaving D Block. It's my forward opinion and I believe this should be 100% accepted. SCPRP Head Admin | Ex SCPRP Event Team Leader | Ex CI LTCMDR | O5-13 Catsro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 -Support If they are operating as MTF they would have to follow MTF rules regardless. D block already has a rule regarding MTF presence and everything else is addressed in their SOPs. If you have a major problem with this it is easy enough to go to command to say, "Hey, your MTF squad is in LCZ on DEFCON 4/5... wtf" Considering any class operating as MTF (CC or not) would be bound by MTF rules this suggestion is redundant When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons what the hell am I supposed to do with these?! Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am?! I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down... with the lemons. I'm going to get my engineers to invent me a combustible lemon, that burns your house down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 16 hours ago, Voxis said: +SUPPORT I have noticed a lot of the time D Class do seem to complain about MTF being in there with custom jobs (mostly they complain anyway but I have seen the complaint with my own two eyes before) and I do believe that they need to follow all MTF based rules such as this one. As you said it would definitely make being a D Class so much easier and much much more fair in the end because then they wouldn't have to fight through an entire army just to be shot in the hallway behind the doors at D Block. To add even further to this, I also dont believe that MTF should be able to camp the intersection next to D Block because if D Class worked so hard to get passed the Security, then they immediately get shot down upon leaving D Block. It's my forward opinion and I believe this should be 100% accepted. 6 hours ago, Knuckles said: -Support If they are operating as MTF they would have to follow MTF rules regardless. D block already has a rule regarding MTF presence and everything else is addressed in their SOPs. If you have a major problem with this it is easy enough to go to command to say, "Hey, your MTF squad is in LCZ on DEFCON 4/5... wtf" Considering any class operating as MTF (CC or not) would be bound by MTF rules this suggestion is redundant To my knowledge, there are more than a few CC owners that haven't read their respective SOPs. I also don't think people are required to read the SOP before getting a CC in the first place. I would like this rule for CCs especially enforced as you will almost literally only see negevs, aka guns that will even mow security heavies, on CCs. If they can just be stationed in D-Block until someone radios it, that's a bit broken. / Security Captain Monroe / Retired SCP-RP Senior Moderator Monroe / Hey! It's your local SCP nerd. Used to write a few articles and do meme writings every once in a while. Message me if you want server, grammar, writing, or interpreting help! Also more than open to becoming friends with the community! [ color=Name/Hex]You're Welcome[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Knuckles said: -Support If they are operating as MTF they would have to follow MTF rules regardless. D block already has a rule regarding MTF presence and everything else is addressed in their SOPs. If you have a major problem with this it is easy enough to go to command to say, "Hey, your MTF squad is in LCZ on DEFCON 4/5... wtf" Considering any class operating as MTF (CC or not) would be bound by MTF rules this suggestion is redundant Why do you think I'm making this post? Its because they don't follow the SOP, MTF CC's come into LCZ/D-Block whenever, and its very irritating. Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookieblue Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 + Support All MTF personnel, including those that fall under custom classes, should be expected to follow MTF guidelines and SOPs. Retired SCP-RP Head of Staff March 3rd, 2019 - December 16th, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 21 hours ago, Voxis said: +SUPPORT I have noticed a lot of the time D Class do seem to complain about MTF being in there with custom jobs (mostly they complain anyway but I have seen the complaint with my own two eyes before) and I do believe that they need to follow all MTF based rules such as this one. As you said it would definitely make being a D Class so much easier and much much more fair in the end because then they wouldn't have to fight through an entire army just to be shot in the hallway behind the doors at D Block. To add even further to this, I also dont believe that MTF should be able to camp the intersection next to D Block because if D Class worked so hard to get passed the Security, then they immediately get shot down upon leaving D Block. It's my forward opinion and I believe this should be 100% accepted. SCP-RP Moderator | CI LTCOL Boozle LC32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheeReaper Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 On 9/12/2019 at 1:19 AM, Voxis said: +SUPPORT I have noticed a lot of the time D Class do seem to complain about MTF being in there with custom jobs (mostly they complain anyway but I have seen the complaint with my own two eyes before) and I do believe that they need to follow all MTF based rules such as this one. As you said it would definitely make being a D Class so much easier and much much more fair in the end because then they wouldn't have to fight through an entire army just to be shot in the hallway behind the doors at D Block. To add even further to this, I also dont believe that MTF should be able to camp the intersection next to D Block because if D Class worked so hard to get passed the Security, then they immediately get shot down upon leaving D Block. It's my forward opinion and I believe this should be 100% accepted. No one Remembers me ~ AHOT Reaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 11 hours ago, Gunther said: Why do you think I'm making this post? Its because they don't follow the SOP, MTF CC's come into LCZ/D-Block whenever, and its very irritating. Going into D block without it being overrun or MTF being requested is breaking a server rule.... If they are operating as MTF they are bound by said rule When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons what the hell am I supposed to do with these?! Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am?! I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down... with the lemons. I'm going to get my engineers to invent me a combustible lemon, that burns your house down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoopy Max Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 1 On 9/12/2019 at 1:19 AM, Voxis said: +SUPPORT I have noticed a lot of the time D Class do seem to complain about MTF being in there with custom jobs (mostly they complain anyway but I have seen the complaint with my own two eyes before) and I do believe that they need to follow all MTF based rules such as this one. As you said it would definitely make being a D Class so much easier and much much more fair in the end because then they wouldn't have to fight through an entire army just to be shot in the hallway behind the doors at D Block. To add even further to this, I also dont believe that MTF should be able to camp the intersection next to D Block because if D Class worked so hard to get passed the Security, then they immediately get shot down upon leaving D Block. It's my forward opinion and I believe this should be 100% accepted. +Support too This is certainly a problem with the MTF just coming in and they are just coming in at Defcon 4 and 5. So I am like go there is no need for you guys and they weren't called so it is just them being in the way making the job of security so much harder. With the fact it also was unfair for d-class in many ways as it does hurt their experience in actually trying to escape d-block and become CI. Thank you for your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 On 9/12/2019 at 7:19 PM, Gunther said: Why do you think I'm making this post? Its because they don't follow the SOP, MTF CC's come into LCZ/D-Block whenever, and its very irritating. IT IS A SERVER RULE THAT PROHIBITS MTF FROM FROM BEING IN D BLOCK WITHOUT A REQUEST OR IT BEING OVERRUN YOU ARE A STAFF MEMBER, ENFORCE THAT RULE When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons what the hell am I supposed to do with these?! Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am?! I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down... with the lemons. I'm going to get my engineers to invent me a combustible lemon, that burns your house down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Even though I own an MTF cc, I agree with this. MTF should follow the enter only when called rule cases sometimes some CCs enter d block and I have done it once or twice and I understand my mistake and I feel this should be enforced. Good luck Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 9/12/2019 at 11:15 AM, Knuckles said: D block already has a rule regarding MTF presence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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