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Significant D Class Nerf - Denied


Carpenter John
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I'm doing something else to cut down on the riots in D-Block, hopefully this won't be needed but I will keep an eye on it.

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What you want to see? - A significant nerf of D class to ensure a balance and that it fits within RP. I believe there should be simply 4 D class jobs. A Offence class, Defence Class, Medic/utility, and a donator class (Jack of all trades). Not including the base D class job. This encourages team work as all 4 classes would need to work together to break out of the facility. The offence class would have maybe a kitchen knife or weak melee weapon and normal health (Maybe 15 or 25 armor). The defence class would have buffed health and some more armor to help defend the rest of the D Class. The medic/utility class would have a med pack and base health. The Donor class would remain the same but would have the pistol removed.

Additionally, D Class donor classes should spawn on the surface or at least have NLR. Furthermore, restricting access or limiting the guns bought by D Class would also help. As realistically, the arms dealer would not sell to D Class. It's also quite goofy with D Class running around the Negevs and assault rifles.

Why should we add it? - Could result in a increase of security and research. It is often times very stressful to have dozens of D Class and very little security. Constant rioting also negates the possibility of any research getting done.

What are the advantages of having this? - More RP, teamwork between the D Class (Less RDM), and overall more balancing.

Who is it mainly for? - D Class, Security, Research.

Links to any content - N/A (All already on the server).

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+support for The most part

(Ohh security just supporting ideas to nerf d class fiwncnxi) 

But I don't support the pro D class losing their guns as its pretty bad tbh

I'm iffy on supporting no D class CCs in D block but apparently it is really bad 

And does this also means the loss of miners? 

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+/- Support

Pros: Class D have to work together in order to escape

Fewer people escaping as individuals

Increased support for Research and Security

Research can actually do their job

Cons: Class D working together is already bad. They already make organized riots.

Class D still can buy the deagle, which can 2 shot security. Make it to where they can only make melee weapons.

Security needs a weapons update, their weapons are trash.

Make it to where class D need a valid reason to riot, PLEASE. Valid reasons are not "Boredom" or GENSEC kill class D for crossing the line. A valid reason would be them seeing an SCP kill a foundation member or another Class D and not getting amnesticized.

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4 hours ago, [icOnic] BonkBoeink said:

-Support On The Medkits, unless it's a donor job, it'd be abused by d class. As d class could give less of a shit about breaking a rule or not,

 

+Support On Everything Else

They can build medkits.

 

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1 hour ago, Youtube Rewind 2018 said:

+/- Support

Pros: Class D have to work together in order to escape

Fewer people escaping as individuals

Increased support for Research and Security

Research can actually do their job

Cons: Class D working together is already bad. They already make organized riots.

Class D still can buy the deagle, which can 2 shot security. Make it to where they can only make melee weapons.

Security needs a weapons update, their weapons are trash.

Make it to where class D need a valid reason to riot, PLEASE. Valid reasons are not "Boredom" or GENSEC kill class D for crossing the line. A valid reason would be them seeing an SCP kill a foundation member or another Class D and not getting amnesticized.

Why are you making your words so large, bejesus. Getting all the Class D to follow that type of rule where they need a valid reason to riot will never happen. That would essentially be implementing an RDM rule for Class D against GENSEC, and staff would be issuing warnings every two seconds.

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March 3rd, 2019 - December 16th, 2021

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@Rookieblue Class D cannot RDM GENSEC. The only thing considered RDM for Class D is RDMing eachother

 

Re-read what I said in white, you obviously didnt read well.

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On 6/23/2019 at 5:32 PM, Rangiatea said:

+support for The most part

(Ohh security just supporting ideas to nerf d class fiwncnxi) 

But I don't support the pro D class losing their guns as its pretty bad tbh

I'm iffy on supporting no D class CCs in D block but apparently it is really bad 

And does this also means the loss of miners? 

 

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Hello Carpenter,

I say this over and over that D class either need nerfs or guns need to have their damage buffed because these constant riots ruin RP for multiple departments. The inability to control them results in situations were research cannot get D class, security gets stuck in the hallway and event team being unable to really do significant events due to the massive amount of attention they take up. I can’t even send patrols out or give researchers escorts at times. It also ruins it for the D class who actually want to RP and have no choice but to just riot. Then I have D class who say that say research is at fault and then continue to riot while those same researchers are unable to do research because of said riot they won’t quit doing. Or when I have them say security sucks at their job when no amount of security is going to stop 15+ rushes when D class have no NLR and my security do. It’s maddening to the mind for most security and research. Any nerfs to D class are greatly appreciated for the sake of RP.

 

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21 hours ago, Youtube Rewind 2018 said:

@Rookieblue Class D cannot RDM GENSEC. The only thing considered RDM for Class D is RDMing eachother

 

Re-read what I said in white, you obviously didnt read well.

Not sure that insulting another person is a great way to go about suggesting stuff, but okay. As I said, adding restrictions on when Class D's can riot would essentially be implementing this type of rule.

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March 3rd, 2019 - December 16th, 2021

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+ support

We MTF and GenSec were fighting riots for hours. Constant shooting and NLR waiting. We are tired of this. The most stupid is that lore-wise d-class shouldnt have ANY weapons at all.

Edit: Typing on the phone is pure pain.

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On 6/23/2019 at 4:32 PM, Rangiatea said:

+support for The most part

(Ohh security just supporting ideas to nerf d class fiwncnxi) 

But I don't support the pro D class losing their guns as its pretty bad tbh

I'm iffy on supporting no D class CCs in D block but apparently it is really bad 

And does this also means the loss of miners? 

 

 SCPRP Head Admin | Ex SCPRP Event Team Leader |  Ex CI LTCMDR |  O5-13 Catsro

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On 6/23/2019 at 3:32 PM, Rangiatea said:

+support for The most part

(Ohh security just supporting ideas to nerf d class fiwncnxi) 

But I don't support the pro D class losing their guns as its pretty bad tbh

I'm iffy on supporting no D class CCs in D block but apparently it is really bad 

And does this also means the loss of miners? 

 

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On 6/23/2019 at 2:32 PM, Rangiatea said:

+support for The most part

(Ohh security just supporting ideas to nerf d class fiwncnxi) 

But I don't support the pro D class losing their guns as its pretty bad tbh

I'm iffy on supporting no D class CCs in D block but apparently it is really bad 

And does this also means the loss of miners? 

Also I don't think the D class CC jobs should spawn on the surface but a maximum of 50 health and a nerf to some of their weapons (SLEDGHAMMER THAT 3 SHOTS A JUGGERNAUT) but they should still spawn in D block but make it so D class need valid reasons to riot 

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On 6/23/2019 at 5:32 PM, Rangiatea said:

+support for The most part

(Ohh security just supporting ideas to nerf d class fiwncnxi) 

But I don't support the pro D class losing their guns as its pretty bad tbh

I'm iffy on supporting no D class CCs in D block but apparently it is really bad 

And does this also means the loss of miners? 

 

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On 6/23/2019 at 4:32 PM, Rangiatea said:

+support for The most part

(Ohh security just supporting ideas to nerf d class fiwncnxi) 

But I don't support the pro D class losing their guns as its pretty bad tbh

I'm iffy on supporting no D class CCs in D block but apparently it is really bad 

And does this also means the loss of miners? 

 

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