[GL]Bambob01 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) What you want to see? - The AWS Nerfed Why should we add it? - Because it is to op and it literally makes my Armor seem like a cotton jumper What are the advantages of having this? - makes gameplay more fair our guns are always nerfed why isn't there's Who is it mainly for? - Gov/Anyone on the wrong side of the gun Proof Of AWS to OP - http://prntscr.com/mqja7y http://prntscr.com/mqjanf https://youtu.be/yt2Xs1lVgiM EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-60qXFOc4A&feature=youtu.be Crouched (THAT ACCURACY) https://youtu.be/k0SU6KZFGnU Stood up no aim Edited March 11, 2019 by [659][GL]Bambob01 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Junior Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) +support littel bit to op Edited March 11, 2019 by Jeff Junior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtag Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 +Support -2 Shot kill for no armor -3 Shot kill for 100 HP & Armor -Way tooooo OP! Retired Major Cashtag 1L26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoopy_boop Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 +++ Support Can literally 3 shot 100 health & 100 armour If you guys thought a silo base with 5 negevs was bad, you don't wanna imagine a silo base with 5 AWS's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] #BeHappy Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) +Support so op , need to be nerfed , i got killed with like3 bullets on Body* with 100 armour Edited March 11, 2019 by [GL] #BeHappy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL]Bambob01 Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 8 bullets killed me with 255 armor 100 hp keep in mind there is 50 in the gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 sadly this is my fav gun but i gotta go with +support 1 2 SWAT PVT Hannah XR39-CPL Hannah King XC65 - Hannah King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) - Support Being truly honest, I do not think the AWS should be nerfed, the spread is wide, It is hard to shoot jumpy targets, The damage is low when it comes to armored opponents like FBI, HRTS, etc. I have always had a problem when I shoot once and miss my target, I cannot hit them again since they become jumpy and normally die. I do not think it's over powered, I just believe it is the skill of the player who can use the weapon really well and is a good shot. In conclusion, you just need skill and a good shot, you can easily destroy someone the same with a negev Edited March 11, 2019 by DasCalamity Gaminglight PoliceRP Retired Superadmin “Genius is one percent inspiration, ninety-nine percent perspiration.” “There are no shortcuts to any place worth going.” “You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unkn0wn_F1R3 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 +Support The damage the AWS deals is way too high for the gun and it can destroy any standard PD member in less than a second. It is very easy to control compared to the negev and when used, can easily win a 1 v 5 situation. Retired Deputy Commissioner Bob Bob 1K51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, [659][GL]Bambob01 said: 8 bullets killed me with 255 armor 100 hp keep in mind there is 50 in the gun theres 100 bullets not 50 SWAT PVT Hannah XR39-CPL Hannah King XC65 - Hannah King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 i am changing to - support a thing is gov has choose to use armor than really good guns to use the aws does mess up a lot when the target is running back and forth you guys also have gas and commanders have freaking flag grenades srt commander has 280 armor crims really do need something op as well, i'd say srt and swat should do double trainings 1 with both departments and 1 by there selfs as they use diffren't tactics , or maybe nerf the armor and ask for better weapons .. armor doesn't save you skill does..and the thing is why our custom class weapons don't get nerfed much is because we paid to have these weapons i paid over $500 in stuff for my custom class SWAT PVT Hannah XR39-CPL Hannah King XC65 - Hannah King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unkn0wn_F1R3 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Hannah King said: i am changing to - support a thing is gov has choose to use armor than really good guns to use the aws does mess up a lot when the target is running back and forth you guys also have gas and commanders have freaking flag grenades srt commander has 280 armor crims really do need something op as well, i'd say srt and swat should do double trainings 1 with both departments and 1 by there selfs as they use diffren't tactics , or maybe nerf the armor and ask for better weapons .. armor doesn't save you skill does.. and the thing is why our custom class weapons don't get nerfed much is because we paid to have these weapons i paid over $500 in stuff for my custom class what happens when the 4 overall commanders of SWAT & SRT arent online and its just PD or low ranking people? Edited March 13, 2019 by Unkn0wn_F1R3 Retired Deputy Commissioner Bob Bob 1K51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunt Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Hannah King said: i am changing to - support a thing is gov has choose to use armor than really good guns to use the aws does mess up a lot when the target is running back and forth you guys also have gas and commanders have freaking flag grenades srt commander has 280 armor crims really do need something op as well, i'd say srt and swat should do double trainings 1 with both departments and 1 by there selfs as they use diffren't tactics , or maybe nerf the armor and ask for better weapons .. armor doesn't save you skill does.. and the thing is why our custom class weapons don't get nerfed much is because we paid to have these weapons i paid over $500 in stuff for my custom class Exactly the same as she said I payed almost £500 for my custom class which is government so I think if we pay for it we should be allowed it and I have gone against hanna one when she had an AWS and I had an m4 I won the fight so I think it should stay as it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Newel Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Major +Support This is getting out of hand. It is to a point where it isn’t even fair for government. Even my class with 280 armour gets shredded in 2 secondes. It isn’t even remotely fair. (Funny how the 2 people that’s -Support are the two people that are causing the whole issue) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 +Support The damage needs to be nerfed but everything else is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitzton Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) +Support Ok, now I hate to join the crowd and complain but I have to agree with what a lot of people are saying, here, let me try and list some points 1. Yes the AWS does require some aim and skill, and some movement techniques to avoid. But something to remember is that the average ping on the server is 10-250, if you spam an area with AWS rounds you could be hitting someone that’s not even there anymore. 2. Hannah, love you, but arguing that the frag grenade counts as a reason to not change the viability of this gun is downright stupid. The frag is almost useless and is more of a “hey look at what I have,” considering how small the splash of the grenade really is. 3. On the topic of SRTs armor, a lot of you forget that our department used to have between 20-25 people with the breacher and sniper whitelist that had 255 armor each. Command had upwards of 300, but was it unbalanced? No. People built smart bases that counteracted the usefulness of armor, the AWS on the other hand removes the need to be quote on quote “smart.” Its just hold left click in a general direction to win. An SRT specialist as taken down within 8 bullets, meaning one AWS mag could potentially, in theory whipe our entire department. 4. I do realize that the AWS does cost money as it is a custom class weapon, so let me provide a suggestion. Considering it’s more like a light, light machine gun, reduce the spread significantly, reduce the damage a moderate amount, and reduce the magazine size to 60-80 rounds. Making it more of an over glorified assault rifle. Still powerful, but for a different reason. Edited March 14, 2019 by Blitzton 1 - SRT Commander Blitzton 1K67 - PD MSGT Blitzton 1C67 - Future Pilot - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 +support When my 225 armor as SWAT SSGT gets DEVOURED in about 2-3 seconds, it's a bit too OP. I usually have enough time to get maybe one shot off before I'm dead, usually no time to hit my panic. A bit of a nerf is DEFINITELY in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJohnny Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 -support negev is way more op than AWS lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeletedUser Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 +Support When myself and Vinny got this gun added for NSA we had the expectation that it would be for Govt officials only in high command because of how strong it was. SMT even nerfed it BEFORE it was added. Now its still insanely strong with good aim. Either the gun should be nerfed or it should be removed and replaced IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezzy Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 13 hours ago, BigJohnny said: -support negev is way more op than AWS lmao. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zage Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 +Support The Gun is so overpowered as seen in the picture for the damage I think it should be nerfed People can say you need skill and its difficult to hit moving targets but It's WHEN you start hitting them it's game over And you Could just say "Well if you just keep moving around you wont die" Well for me i'm not going to be running around in circles trying not to die from a gun that's OP I rather sit there and have a fair fight and not have to run away from a fight I know i'm going to lose PD Colonel , EMS Deputy Chief, ~Zage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) On 3/13/2019 at 6:00 PM, Will Newel said: Major +Support This is getting out of hand. It is to a point where it isn’t even fair for government. Even my class with 280 armour gets shredded in 2 secondes. It isn’t even remotely fair. (Funny how the 2 people that’s -Support are the two people that are causing the whole issue) with the aws i know its op but i didn't think it would be this much of an issue because i tested on my friend and it took 20 shots to kill him mostly what should be changed is props how fast the gun shoots and lil dmg taken away from it ig Edited March 15, 2019 by Hannah King SWAT PVT Hannah XR39-CPL Hannah King XC65 - Hannah King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh aka Spike Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 + Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPA Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 3/11/2019 at 3:13 PM, Unkn0wn_F1R3 said: +Support The damage the AWS deals is way too high for the gun and it can destroy any standard PD member in less than a second. It is very easy to control compared to the negev and when used, can easily win a 1 v 5 situation. This is WAY too OP, I am CERT commander which gets 250 Armour and it shreds you at full health and armour in 2 seconds (no joke we tested it). imagina if there isnt any commanders or tac units on, it is just no fun not being able to do anything but just accept your fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 hours ago, SYKE said: This is WAY too OP, I am CERT commander which gets 250 Armour and it shreds you at full health and armour in 2 seconds (no joke we tested it). imagina if there isnt any commanders or tac units on, it is just no fun not being able to do anything but just accept your fate. i do agree i gave it a test my self to day when i did a jail break i took out 5 pd in like 30 seconds but gov just thinks armor saves them no it's skill i have said this a few times i would rather get rid of the armor and just have good guns you could even have 300-400+ armor and it would make your survive rate a lil higher but in the end if the person knows how to use the gun and out skills you that armor wont do anything , also have tactics dont just go running infront of an lmg find cover keep your distance , i will even prove this to you one day ill get stander gov gear with only 100 armor and show you that you guys are relying to much on it,, i SWAT PVT Hannah XR39-CPL Hannah King XC65 - Hannah King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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