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What you want to see? -  A new and improved set of firearms for our officers ( Its basically a optimization)

Why should we add it? -  Because some of the weapons that are standard issue are underpowered or very inaccurate

What are the advantages of having this? - More accuracy/more damage/higher officer survival rate

Who is it mainly for? - The Police Department

Links to any content - Credit to Dep chief Bob Bob for creating it -- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SC80reuokvgu-P47Wcre6pP-1elObBtwiBnhoZE_M_w/edit?usp=sharing

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PD is supposed to be under powered in a way. PD is not a tactical unit . To me, this seems like you're wanting to make PD high command more of a tactical unit with 100+ armor/KF2 Deagle/AWP/Smoke Grenade/Gas Grenade/Flashbang/Breaching Charges/Medkit which seems really ridiculous. If you are wanting more of tactical equipment, then join a tactical unit.

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More accuracy/more damage/higher officer survival rate

More accuracy? This is what police trainings are for. You practice on aiming at targets and making sure they know how to shoot properly with their weapons.

Higher officer survival rate? Police should be taught how to value their lives rather than wanting to be the one who kills/takes down the suspect. This is why there are tactical units to ensure that officers don't die in these gunfights. If officers are in danger and are about to die, they should fall back and call in for backup and additionals.

 

This is how the gun ranks for the PD should be.

Rankings
Officer ­- OFC. - Glock/MP5/P90 (P90 must be bought)
Senior Officer ­- SNR. - Glock18/M4A1
Lance Corporal - LCPL. Glock18/M4A1
Corporal ­- CPL. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47
Sergeant ­- SGT - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47
Master Sergeant ­- MSGT. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas
Sergeant Major - SM. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas
Low Command
Lieutenant ­- LT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Captain ­- CPT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Major -­ MAJ. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Colonel - COL. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
High Command
Assistant Chief - A.Chief. - Any Weapon
Deputy Chief ­- D.Chief. - Any Weapon
Chief - Chief. - Any Weapon
Commissioner - Comm. - Any Weapon
 
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1 minute ago, snookiebear said:

+/- support

PD is supposed to be under powered in a way. PD is not a tactical unit . To me, this seems like you're wanting to make PD high command more of a tactical unit with 100+ armor/KF2 Deagle/AWP/Smoke Grenade/Gas Grenade/Flashbang/Breaching Charges/Medkit which seems really ridiculous. If you are wanting more of tactical equipment, then join a tactical unit.

More accuracy? This is what police trainings are for. You practice on aiming at targets and making sure they know how to shoot properly with their weapons.

Higher officer survival rate? Police should be taught how to value their lives rather than wanting to be the one who kills/takes down the suspect. This is why there are tactical units to ensure that officers don't die in these gunfights. If officers are in danger and are about to die, they should fall back and call in for backup and additionals.

 

This is how the gun ranks for the PD should be.

Rankings
Officer ­- OFC. - Glock/MP5/P90 (P90 must be bought)
Senior Officer ­- SNR. - Glock18/M4A1
Lance Corporal - LCPL. Glock18/M4A1
Corporal ­- CPL. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47
Sergeant ­- SGT - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47
Master Sergeant ­- MSGT. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas
Sergeant Major - SM. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas
Low Command
Lieutenant ­- LT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Captain ­- CPT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Major -­ MAJ. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Colonel - COL. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
High Command
Assistant Chief - A.Chief. - Any Weapon
Deputy Chief ­- D.Chief. - Any Weapon
Chief - Chief. - Any Weapon
Commissioner - Comm. - Any Weapon
 

 

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4 minutes ago, snookiebear said:

+/- support

PD is supposed to be under powered in a way. PD is not a tactical unit . To me, this seems like you're wanting to make PD high command more of a tactical unit with 100+ armor/KF2 Deagle/AWP/Smoke Grenade/Gas Grenade/Flashbang/Breaching Charges/Medkit which seems really ridiculous. If you are wanting more of tactical equipment, then join a tactical unit.

More accuracy? This is what police trainings are for. You practice on aiming at targets and making sure they know how to shoot properly with their weapons.

Higher officer survival rate? Police should be taught how to value their lives rather than wanting to be the one who kills/takes down the suspect. This is why there are tactical units to ensure that officers don't die in these gunfights. If officers are in danger and are about to die, they should fall back and call in for backup and additionals.

 

This is how the gun ranks for the PD should be.

Rankings
Officer ­- OFC. - Glock/MP5/P90 (P90 must be bought)
Senior Officer ­- SNR. - Glock18/M4A1
Lance Corporal - LCPL. Glock18/M4A1
Corporal ­- CPL. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47
Sergeant ­- SGT - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47
Master Sergeant ­- MSGT. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas
Sergeant Major - SM. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas
Low Command
Lieutenant ­- LT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Captain ­- CPT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Major -­ MAJ. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Colonel - COL. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
High Command
Assistant Chief - A.Chief. - Any Weapon
Deputy Chief ­- D.Chief. - Any Weapon
Chief - Chief. - Any Weapon
Commissioner - Comm. - Any Weapon
 

 

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5 minutes ago, snookiebear said:

+/- support

PD is supposed to be under powered in a way. PD is not a tactical unit . To me, this seems like you're wanting to make PD high command more of a tactical unit with 100+ armor/KF2 Deagle/AWP/Smoke Grenade/Gas Grenade/Flashbang/Breaching Charges/Medkit which seems really ridiculous. If you are wanting more of tactical equipment, then join a tactical unit.

More accuracy? This is what police trainings are for. You practice on aiming at targets and making sure they know how to shoot properly with their weapons.

Higher officer survival rate? Police should be taught how to value their lives rather than wanting to be the one who kills/takes down the suspect. This is why there are tactical units to ensure that officers don't die in these gunfights. If officers are in danger and are about to die, they should fall back and call in for backup and additionals.

 

This is how the gun ranks for the PD should be.

Rankings
Officer ­- OFC. - Glock/MP5/P90 (P90 must be bought)
Senior Officer ­- SNR. - Glock18/M4A1
Lance Corporal - LCPL. Glock18/M4A1
Corporal ­- CPL. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47
Sergeant ­- SGT - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47
Master Sergeant ­- MSGT. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas
Sergeant Major - SM. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas
Low Command
Lieutenant ­- LT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Captain ­- CPT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Major -­ MAJ. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Colonel - COL. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
High Command
Assistant Chief - A.Chief. - Any Weapon
Deputy Chief ­- D.Chief. - Any Weapon
Chief - Chief. - Any Weapon
Commissioner - Comm. - Any Weapon
 

 

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6 hours ago, snookiebear said:

+/- support

PD is supposed to be under powered in a way. PD is not a tactical unit . To me, this seems like you're wanting to make PD high command more of a tactical unit with 100+ armor/KF2 Deagle/AWP/Smoke Grenade/Gas Grenade/Flashbang/Breaching Charges/Medkit which seems really ridiculous. If you are wanting more of tactical equipment, then join a tactical unit.

More accuracy? This is what police trainings are for. You practice on aiming at targets and making sure they know how to shoot properly with their weapons.

Higher officer survival rate? Police should be taught how to value their lives rather than wanting to be the one who kills/takes down the suspect. This is why there are tactical units to ensure that officers don't die in these gunfights. If officers are in danger and are about to die, they should fall back and call in for backup and additionals.

 

This is how the gun ranks for the PD should be.

Rankings
Officer ­- OFC. - Glock/MP5/P90 (P90 must be bought)
Senior Officer ­- SNR. - Glock18/M4A1
Lance Corporal - LCPL. Glock18/M4A1
Corporal ­- CPL. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47
Sergeant ­- SGT - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47
Master Sergeant ­- MSGT. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas
Sergeant Major - SM. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas
Low Command
Lieutenant ­- LT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Captain ­- CPT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Major -­ MAJ. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Colonel - COL. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
High Command
Assistant Chief - A.Chief. - Any Weapon
Deputy Chief ­- D.Chief. - Any Weapon
Chief - Chief. - Any Weapon
Commissioner - Comm. - Any Weapon
 

 

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6 hours ago, snookiebear said:

+/- support

PD is supposed to be under powered in a way. PD is not a tactical unit . To me, this seems like you're wanting to make PD high command more of a tactical unit with 100+ armor/KF2 Deagle/AWP/Smoke Grenade/Gas Grenade/Flashbang/Breaching Charges/Medkit which seems really ridiculous. If you are wanting more of tactical equipment, then join a tactical unit.

More accuracy? This is what police trainings are for. You practice on aiming at targets and making sure they know how to shoot properly with their weapons.

Higher officer survival rate? Police should be taught how to value their lives rather than wanting to be the one who kills/takes down the suspect. This is why there are tactical units to ensure that officers don't die in these gunfights. If officers are in danger and are about to die, they should fall back and call in for backup and additionals.

 

This is how the gun ranks for the PD should be.

Rankings
Officer ­- OFC. - Glock/MP5/P90 (P90 must be bought)
Senior Officer ­- SNR. - Glock18/M4A1
Lance Corporal - LCPL. Glock18/M4A1
Corporal ­- CPL. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47
Sergeant ­- SGT - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47
Master Sergeant ­- MSGT. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas
Sergeant Major - SM. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas
Low Command
Lieutenant ­- LT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Captain ­- CPT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Major -­ MAJ. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Colonel - COL. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
High Command
Assistant Chief - A.Chief. - Any Weapon
Deputy Chief ­- D.Chief. - Any Weapon
Chief - Chief. - Any Weapon
Commissioner - Comm. - Any Weapon
 

Ya, I mean this update really seems like its mostly for PD high command.  I'd support some changes to the loadouts of lower ranks, but if PD high command wants to have tactical equipment like mustard gas, breaching charges, etc they should either apply and join a tac unit to get properly trained/have a reason in RP to be using items like this or use the reserve ranks they might have in those departments to go use them. I'd rather see PD high command actually supervising PD instead of worrying about tactical situations when they're on their job.

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9 hours ago, snookiebear said:

+/- support

PD is supposed to be under powered in a way. PD is not a tactical unit . To me, this seems like you're wanting to make PD high command more of a tactical unit with 100+ armor/KF2 Deagle/AWP/Smoke Grenade/Gas Grenade/Flashbang/Breaching Charges/Medkit which seems really ridiculous. If you are wanting more of tactical equipment, then join a tactical unit.

More accuracy? This is what police trainings are for. You practice on aiming at targets and making sure they know how to shoot properly with their weapons.

Higher officer survival rate? Police should be taught how to value their lives rather than wanting to be the one who kills/takes down the suspect. This is why there are tactical units to ensure that officers don't die in these gunfights. If officers are in danger and are about to die, they should fall back and call in for backup and additionals.

 

This is how the gun ranks for the PD should be.

Rankings
Officer ­- OFC. - Glock/MP5/P90 (P90 must be bought)
Senior Officer ­- SNR. - Glock18/M4A1
Lance Corporal - LCPL. Glock18/M4A1
Corporal ­- CPL. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47
Sergeant ­- SGT - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47
Master Sergeant ­- MSGT. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas
Sergeant Major - SM. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas
Low Command
Lieutenant ­- LT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Captain ­- CPT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Major -­ MAJ. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Colonel - COL. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
High Command
Assistant Chief - A.Chief. - Any Weapon
Deputy Chief ­- D.Chief. - Any Weapon
Chief - Chief. - Any Weapon
Commissioner - Comm. - Any Weapon
 

 

We've based high command loadouts off of other departments low command loadouts with the KF2 as our standing out sidearm. PD high command are the role models to pretty much everyone else on PD so shouldn't be constantly dying all the time, PD high command are also the same ranks as all other departments second in command/commander and higher.

It's basically impossible to train about 2000 people to use a P90 properly with regular trainings for them all, we want to switch to the MP5 because it's got better accuracy but slightly lower damage with a lower clip size.

Same goes for survival rates, we can't regularly train 200 people everyday. If you think about it, PD mainly die due to people not RolePlaying traffic stops or doing PD raids or just wanting to get involved with police, PD cant stop this from happening, they're told not to go into raids that tac units are involved in but we can't stop them from pursuits or even arresting people as then there would be nothing for then to do.

We're talking about the weapons they spawn with, there's only ever 5 command at the most on at a time and those high command are supposed to be there to command people, not sit back do nothing or die. Our current loadouts are a Glock, maybe an mp5 or a P90 and either a Nova or an XM. High Command loadouts really need updating, if Snar feels any of it is too OP he will change it.

I'm not trying to argue or anything, just want to point out issues with your points as there's always going to be issues with most points made by anyone.

(Also removed some of the items that people would deem too OP)

Edited by -Unknown-

Retired Deputy Commissioner Bob Bob 1K51

 

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3 hours ago, Jeff Junior said:

+SUPPORT PD needs new stuff 

- hig command is not op if you think about it they are the role models for every department they are the ones that is bossing over the departments if you think about it 

 

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17 hours ago, Snarlax said:

@noot You need to edit the doc to include the actual gun spawn codes. This is where you right click the gun in the q menu and click copy to clipboard

Ive Created a Second Tab for Weapon Codes Snar 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SC80reuokvgu-P47Wcre6pP-1elObBtwiBnhoZE_M_w/edit?usp=sharing

Retired Deputy Commissioner Bob Bob 1K51

 

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20 hours ago, snookiebear said:

+/- support

PD is supposed to be under powered in a way. PD is not a tactical unit . To me, this seems like you're wanting to make PD high command more of a tactical unit with 100+ armor/KF2 Deagle/AWP/Smoke Grenade/Gas Grenade/Flashbang/Breaching Charges/Medkit which seems really ridiculous. If you are wanting more of tactical equipment, then join a tactical unit.

More accuracy? This is what police trainings are for. You practice on aiming at targets and making sure they know how to shoot properly with their weapons.

Higher officer survival rate? Police should be taught how to value their lives rather than wanting to be the one who kills/takes down the suspect. This is why there are tactical units to ensure that officers don't die in these gunfights. If officers are in danger and are about to die, they should fall back and call in for backup and additionals.

 

This is how the gun ranks for the PD should be.

Rankings
Officer ­- OFC. - Glock/MP5/P90 (P90 must be bought)
Senior Officer ­- SNR. - Glock18/M4A1
Lance Corporal - LCPL. Glock18/M4A1
Corporal ­- CPL. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47
Sergeant ­- SGT - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47
Master Sergeant ­- MSGT. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas
Sergeant Major - SM. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas
Low Command
Lieutenant ­- LT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Captain ­- CPT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Major -­ MAJ. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
Colonel - COL. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014
High Command
Assistant Chief - A.Chief. - Any Weapon
Deputy Chief ­- D.Chief. - Any Weapon
Chief - Chief. - Any Weapon
Commissioner - Comm. - Any Weapon
 

 

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1 hour ago, ArmyGuy said:

Don't you think this is going to make PD a little too op? PD aren't meant to have op things for a reason, they're not tac units 

Like why have AWPs for PD High Command? That makes no sense 

High Command loadouts have been based off of other departments low command/standard officers. High Command loadouts currently are as they are as high command take command of high priority situations/major crime situations if needed and we'll, should be the first ones dying when they're supposed to be giving out orders. I've put AWPs on as I and other high command generally use them quite often and well it also costs a lot for us. As high command we also host/command a few situations that require these forces. Other departments such as SWAT have several classes some for snipers, breaching or pointman but we don't get anything like that so we have a short,mid and long range weapon + sidearm and shotgun.

The reason we have added is MP5's is it's an easier way to control officers shooting without spending our lives hosting training after training. MP5s aren't very op so the only "op" classess would be high command. Saying that, it's only the most of 5 out of a few thousand people that have this status and equipment in PD. The first draft was a lot more op but we posted it to public to see their opinions on the topic.

Retired Deputy Commissioner Bob Bob 1K51

 

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Very big -support PD isn't a tac unit if PD low\high command had these weapons there wouldn't even be a point  for tac units if you wish to have these guns join a tac unit or even NSA

                       

                        SWAT PVT Hannah XR39-CPL Hannah King  XC65 - Hannah King 

                                              

  

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46 minutes ago, Hannah King said:

Very big -support PD isn't a tac unit if PD low\high command had these weapons there wouldn't even be a point  for tac units if you wish to have these guns join a tac unit or even NSA

i am pretty sure that they are alredy doing it like after this reastart pd will have new guns 

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14 hours ago, -Unknown- said:

High Command loadouts have been based off of other departments low command/standard officers. High Command loadouts currently are as they are as high command take command of high priority situations/major crime situations if needed and we'll, should be the first ones dying when they're supposed to be giving out orders. I've put AWPs on as I and other high command generally use them quite often and well it also costs a lot for us. As high command we also host/command a few situations that require these forces. Other departments such as SWAT have several classes some for snipers, breaching or pointman but we don't get anything like that so we have a short,mid and long range weapon + sidearm and shotgun.

The reason we have added is MP5's is it's an easier way to control officers shooting without spending our lives hosting training after training. MP5s aren't very op so the only "op" classess would be high command. Saying that, it's only the most of 5 out of a few thousand people that have this status and equipment in PD. The first draft was a lot more op but we posted it to public to see their opinions on the topic.

I'm not saying the MP5s are going to be over powered, I'm saying what you're doing to PD command is over powered 

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