noot Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 What you want to see? - A new and improved set of firearms for our officers ( Its basically a optimization) Why should we add it? - Because some of the weapons that are standard issue are underpowered or very inaccurate What are the advantages of having this? - More accuracy/more damage/higher officer survival rate Who is it mainly for? - The Police Department Links to any content - Credit to Dep chief Bob Bob for creating it -- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SC80reuokvgu-P47Wcre6pP-1elObBtwiBnhoZE_M_w/edit?usp=sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unkn0wn_F1R3 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 +Support We would all benefit from this Been waiting for this Retired Deputy Commissioner Bob Bob 1K51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrup Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 +support maybe even customizable weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookiebear Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 +/- support PD is supposed to be under powered in a way. PD is not a tactical unit . To me, this seems like you're wanting to make PD high command more of a tactical unit with 100+ armor/KF2 Deagle/AWP/Smoke Grenade/Gas Grenade/Flashbang/Breaching Charges/Medkit which seems really ridiculous. If you are wanting more of tactical equipment, then join a tactical unit. Quote More accuracy/more damage/higher officer survival rate More accuracy? This is what police trainings are for. You practice on aiming at targets and making sure they know how to shoot properly with their weapons. Higher officer survival rate? Police should be taught how to value their lives rather than wanting to be the one who kills/takes down the suspect. This is why there are tactical units to ensure that officers don't die in these gunfights. If officers are in danger and are about to die, they should fall back and call in for backup and additionals. This is how the gun ranks for the PD should be. Rankings Officer - OFC. - Glock/MP5/P90 (P90 must be bought) Senior Officer - SNR. - Glock18/M4A1 Lance Corporal - LCPL. Glock18/M4A1 Corporal - CPL. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47 Sergeant - SGT - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47 Master Sergeant - MSGT. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas Sergeant Major - SM. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas Low Command Lieutenant - LT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Captain - CPT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Major - MAJ. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Colonel - COL. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 High Command Assistant Chief - A.Chief. - Any Weapon Deputy Chief - D.Chief. - Any Weapon Chief - Chief. - Any Weapon Commissioner - Comm. - Any Weapon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, snookiebear said: +/- support PD is supposed to be under powered in a way. PD is not a tactical unit . To me, this seems like you're wanting to make PD high command more of a tactical unit with 100+ armor/KF2 Deagle/AWP/Smoke Grenade/Gas Grenade/Flashbang/Breaching Charges/Medkit which seems really ridiculous. If you are wanting more of tactical equipment, then join a tactical unit. More accuracy? This is what police trainings are for. You practice on aiming at targets and making sure they know how to shoot properly with their weapons. Higher officer survival rate? Police should be taught how to value their lives rather than wanting to be the one who kills/takes down the suspect. This is why there are tactical units to ensure that officers don't die in these gunfights. If officers are in danger and are about to die, they should fall back and call in for backup and additionals. This is how the gun ranks for the PD should be. Rankings Officer - OFC. - Glock/MP5/P90 (P90 must be bought) Senior Officer - SNR. - Glock18/M4A1 Lance Corporal - LCPL. Glock18/M4A1 Corporal - CPL. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47 Sergeant - SGT - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47 Master Sergeant - MSGT. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas Sergeant Major - SM. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas Low Command Lieutenant - LT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Captain - CPT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Major - MAJ. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Colonel - COL. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 High Command Assistant Chief - A.Chief. - Any Weapon Deputy Chief - D.Chief. - Any Weapon Chief - Chief. - Any Weapon Commissioner - Comm. - Any Weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Yo Suk Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) Why don't you start training PD how to burst with P90 instead full out shooting from far distance lol I would +support on MP5 if they really want to change it but I think that making them weaker than people with P90 Edited October 17, 2018 by Kim Yo Suk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyreggs Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, snookiebear said: +/- support PD is supposed to be under powered in a way. PD is not a tactical unit . To me, this seems like you're wanting to make PD high command more of a tactical unit with 100+ armor/KF2 Deagle/AWP/Smoke Grenade/Gas Grenade/Flashbang/Breaching Charges/Medkit which seems really ridiculous. If you are wanting more of tactical equipment, then join a tactical unit. More accuracy? This is what police trainings are for. You practice on aiming at targets and making sure they know how to shoot properly with their weapons. Higher officer survival rate? Police should be taught how to value their lives rather than wanting to be the one who kills/takes down the suspect. This is why there are tactical units to ensure that officers don't die in these gunfights. If officers are in danger and are about to die, they should fall back and call in for backup and additionals. This is how the gun ranks for the PD should be. Rankings Officer - OFC. - Glock/MP5/P90 (P90 must be bought) Senior Officer - SNR. - Glock18/M4A1 Lance Corporal - LCPL. Glock18/M4A1 Corporal - CPL. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47 Sergeant - SGT - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47 Master Sergeant - MSGT. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas Sergeant Major - SM. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas Low Command Lieutenant - LT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Captain - CPT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Major - MAJ. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Colonel - COL. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 High Command Assistant Chief - A.Chief. - Any Weapon Deputy Chief - D.Chief. - Any Weapon Chief - Chief. - Any Weapon Commissioner - Comm. - Any Weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrup Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, snookiebear said: +/- support PD is supposed to be under powered in a way. PD is not a tactical unit . To me, this seems like you're wanting to make PD high command more of a tactical unit with 100+ armor/KF2 Deagle/AWP/Smoke Grenade/Gas Grenade/Flashbang/Breaching Charges/Medkit which seems really ridiculous. If you are wanting more of tactical equipment, then join a tactical unit. More accuracy? This is what police trainings are for. You practice on aiming at targets and making sure they know how to shoot properly with their weapons. Higher officer survival rate? Police should be taught how to value their lives rather than wanting to be the one who kills/takes down the suspect. This is why there are tactical units to ensure that officers don't die in these gunfights. If officers are in danger and are about to die, they should fall back and call in for backup and additionals. This is how the gun ranks for the PD should be. Rankings Officer - OFC. - Glock/MP5/P90 (P90 must be bought) Senior Officer - SNR. - Glock18/M4A1 Lance Corporal - LCPL. Glock18/M4A1 Corporal - CPL. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47 Sergeant - SGT - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47 Master Sergeant - MSGT. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas Sergeant Major - SM. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas Low Command Lieutenant - LT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Captain - CPT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Major - MAJ. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Colonel - COL. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 High Command Assistant Chief - A.Chief. - Any Weapon Deputy Chief - D.Chief. - Any Weapon Chief - Chief. - Any Weapon Commissioner - Comm. - Any Weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarlax Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 @noot You need to edit the doc to include the actual gun spawn codes. This is where you right click the gun in the q menu and click copy to clipboard Lead Account Manager Backend Operations | Custom Jobs | Proud Member since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unkn0wn_F1R3 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Snarlax said: @noot You need to edit the doc to include the actual gun spawn codes. This is where you right click the gun in the q menu and click copy to clipboard Ill do that tomorrow when I'm on PC again Retired Deputy Commissioner Bob Bob 1K51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cole Phelps Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 6 hours ago, snookiebear said: +/- support PD is supposed to be under powered in a way. PD is not a tactical unit . To me, this seems like you're wanting to make PD high command more of a tactical unit with 100+ armor/KF2 Deagle/AWP/Smoke Grenade/Gas Grenade/Flashbang/Breaching Charges/Medkit which seems really ridiculous. If you are wanting more of tactical equipment, then join a tactical unit. More accuracy? This is what police trainings are for. You practice on aiming at targets and making sure they know how to shoot properly with their weapons. Higher officer survival rate? Police should be taught how to value their lives rather than wanting to be the one who kills/takes down the suspect. This is why there are tactical units to ensure that officers don't die in these gunfights. If officers are in danger and are about to die, they should fall back and call in for backup and additionals. This is how the gun ranks for the PD should be. Rankings Officer - OFC. - Glock/MP5/P90 (P90 must be bought) Senior Officer - SNR. - Glock18/M4A1 Lance Corporal - LCPL. Glock18/M4A1 Corporal - CPL. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47 Sergeant - SGT - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47 Master Sergeant - MSGT. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas Sergeant Major - SM. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas Low Command Lieutenant - LT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Captain - CPT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Major - MAJ. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Colonel - COL. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 High Command Assistant Chief - A.Chief. - Any Weapon Deputy Chief - D.Chief. - Any Weapon Chief - Chief. - Any Weapon Commissioner - Comm. - Any Weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 6 hours ago, snookiebear said: +/- support PD is supposed to be under powered in a way. PD is not a tactical unit . To me, this seems like you're wanting to make PD high command more of a tactical unit with 100+ armor/KF2 Deagle/AWP/Smoke Grenade/Gas Grenade/Flashbang/Breaching Charges/Medkit which seems really ridiculous. If you are wanting more of tactical equipment, then join a tactical unit. More accuracy? This is what police trainings are for. You practice on aiming at targets and making sure they know how to shoot properly with their weapons. Higher officer survival rate? Police should be taught how to value their lives rather than wanting to be the one who kills/takes down the suspect. This is why there are tactical units to ensure that officers don't die in these gunfights. If officers are in danger and are about to die, they should fall back and call in for backup and additionals. This is how the gun ranks for the PD should be. Rankings Officer - OFC. - Glock/MP5/P90 (P90 must be bought) Senior Officer - SNR. - Glock18/M4A1 Lance Corporal - LCPL. Glock18/M4A1 Corporal - CPL. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47 Sergeant - SGT - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47 Master Sergeant - MSGT. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas Sergeant Major - SM. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas Low Command Lieutenant - LT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Captain - CPT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Major - MAJ. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Colonel - COL. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 High Command Assistant Chief - A.Chief. - Any Weapon Deputy Chief - D.Chief. - Any Weapon Chief - Chief. - Any Weapon Commissioner - Comm. - Any Weapon Ya, I mean this update really seems like its mostly for PD high command. I'd support some changes to the loadouts of lower ranks, but if PD high command wants to have tactical equipment like mustard gas, breaching charges, etc they should either apply and join a tac unit to get properly trained/have a reason in RP to be using items like this or use the reserve ranks they might have in those departments to go use them. I'd rather see PD high command actually supervising PD instead of worrying about tactical situations when they're on their job. BRONCO Police Lieutenant (1A29) ~ Trooper Corporal (1C29) EMS EMT Technician Valk was not here, fortunetely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 +Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unkn0wn_F1R3 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, snookiebear said: +/- support PD is supposed to be under powered in a way. PD is not a tactical unit . To me, this seems like you're wanting to make PD high command more of a tactical unit with 100+ armor/KF2 Deagle/AWP/Smoke Grenade/Gas Grenade/Flashbang/Breaching Charges/Medkit which seems really ridiculous. If you are wanting more of tactical equipment, then join a tactical unit. More accuracy? This is what police trainings are for. You practice on aiming at targets and making sure they know how to shoot properly with their weapons. Higher officer survival rate? Police should be taught how to value their lives rather than wanting to be the one who kills/takes down the suspect. This is why there are tactical units to ensure that officers don't die in these gunfights. If officers are in danger and are about to die, they should fall back and call in for backup and additionals. This is how the gun ranks for the PD should be. Rankings Officer - OFC. - Glock/MP5/P90 (P90 must be bought) Senior Officer - SNR. - Glock18/M4A1 Lance Corporal - LCPL. Glock18/M4A1 Corporal - CPL. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47 Sergeant - SGT - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47 Master Sergeant - MSGT. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas Sergeant Major - SM. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas Low Command Lieutenant - LT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Captain - CPT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Major - MAJ. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Colonel - COL. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 High Command Assistant Chief - A.Chief. - Any Weapon Deputy Chief - D.Chief. - Any Weapon Chief - Chief. - Any Weapon Commissioner - Comm. - Any Weapon We've based high command loadouts off of other departments low command loadouts with the KF2 as our standing out sidearm. PD high command are the role models to pretty much everyone else on PD so shouldn't be constantly dying all the time, PD high command are also the same ranks as all other departments second in command/commander and higher. It's basically impossible to train about 2000 people to use a P90 properly with regular trainings for them all, we want to switch to the MP5 because it's got better accuracy but slightly lower damage with a lower clip size. Same goes for survival rates, we can't regularly train 200 people everyday. If you think about it, PD mainly die due to people not RolePlaying traffic stops or doing PD raids or just wanting to get involved with police, PD cant stop this from happening, they're told not to go into raids that tac units are involved in but we can't stop them from pursuits or even arresting people as then there would be nothing for then to do. We're talking about the weapons they spawn with, there's only ever 5 command at the most on at a time and those high command are supposed to be there to command people, not sit back do nothing or die. Our current loadouts are a Glock, maybe an mp5 or a P90 and either a Nova or an XM. High Command loadouts really need updating, if Snar feels any of it is too OP he will change it. I'm not trying to argue or anything, just want to point out issues with your points as there's always going to be issues with most points made by anyone. (Also removed some of the items that people would deem too OP) Edited October 18, 2018 by -Unknown- Retired Deputy Commissioner Bob Bob 1K51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Junior Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 +SUPPORT PD needs new stuff - hig command is not op if you think about it they are the role models for every department they are the ones that is bossing over the departments if you think about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Jeff Junior said: +SUPPORT PD needs new stuff - hig command is not op if you think about it they are the role models for every department they are the ones that is bossing over the departments if you think about it That bald Aussie Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathBringer402 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Jeff Junior said: +SUPPORT PD needs new stuff - hig command is not op if you think about it they are the role models for every department they are the ones that is bossing over the departments if you think about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unkn0wn_F1R3 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 17 hours ago, Snarlax said: @noot You need to edit the doc to include the actual gun spawn codes. This is where you right click the gun in the q menu and click copy to clipboard Ive Created a Second Tab for Weapon Codes Snar https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SC80reuokvgu-P47Wcre6pP-1elObBtwiBnhoZE_M_w/edit?usp=sharing Retired Deputy Commissioner Bob Bob 1K51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 20 hours ago, snookiebear said: +/- support PD is supposed to be under powered in a way. PD is not a tactical unit . To me, this seems like you're wanting to make PD high command more of a tactical unit with 100+ armor/KF2 Deagle/AWP/Smoke Grenade/Gas Grenade/Flashbang/Breaching Charges/Medkit which seems really ridiculous. If you are wanting more of tactical equipment, then join a tactical unit. More accuracy? This is what police trainings are for. You practice on aiming at targets and making sure they know how to shoot properly with their weapons. Higher officer survival rate? Police should be taught how to value their lives rather than wanting to be the one who kills/takes down the suspect. This is why there are tactical units to ensure that officers don't die in these gunfights. If officers are in danger and are about to die, they should fall back and call in for backup and additionals. This is how the gun ranks for the PD should be. Rankings Officer - OFC. - Glock/MP5/P90 (P90 must be bought) Senior Officer - SNR. - Glock18/M4A1 Lance Corporal - LCPL. Glock18/M4A1 Corporal - CPL. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47 Sergeant - SGT - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47 Master Sergeant - MSGT. - Glock18/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas Sergeant Major - SM. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas Low Command Lieutenant - LT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Captain - CPT. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Major - MAJ. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 Colonel - COL. - Any Pistol/Any SMG/ M4A1/AK47/Famas/SawedOff/XM1014 High Command Assistant Chief - A.Chief. - Any Weapon Deputy Chief - D.Chief. - Any Weapon Chief - Chief. - Any Weapon Commissioner - Comm. - Any Weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyGuy Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Don't you think this is going to make PD a little too op? PD aren't meant to have op things for a reason, they're not tac units Like why have AWPs for PD High Command? That makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unkn0wn_F1R3 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, ArmyGuy said: Don't you think this is going to make PD a little too op? PD aren't meant to have op things for a reason, they're not tac units Like why have AWPs for PD High Command? That makes no sense High Command loadouts have been based off of other departments low command/standard officers. High Command loadouts currently are as they are as high command take command of high priority situations/major crime situations if needed and we'll, should be the first ones dying when they're supposed to be giving out orders. I've put AWPs on as I and other high command generally use them quite often and well it also costs a lot for us. As high command we also host/command a few situations that require these forces. Other departments such as SWAT have several classes some for snipers, breaching or pointman but we don't get anything like that so we have a short,mid and long range weapon + sidearm and shotgun. The reason we have added is MP5's is it's an easier way to control officers shooting without spending our lives hosting training after training. MP5s aren't very op so the only "op" classess would be high command. Saying that, it's only the most of 5 out of a few thousand people that have this status and equipment in PD. The first draft was a lot more op but we posted it to public to see their opinions on the topic. Retired Deputy Commissioner Bob Bob 1K51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Very big -support PD isn't a tac unit if PD low\high command had these weapons there wouldn't even be a point for tac units if you wish to have these guns join a tac unit or even NSA SWAT PVT Hannah XR39-CPL Hannah King XC65 - Hannah King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Junior Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 46 minutes ago, Hannah King said: Very big -support PD isn't a tac unit if PD low\high command had these weapons there wouldn't even be a point for tac units if you wish to have these guns join a tac unit or even NSA i am pretty sure that they are alredy doing it like after this reastart pd will have new guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyGuy Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 14 hours ago, -Unknown- said: High Command loadouts have been based off of other departments low command/standard officers. High Command loadouts currently are as they are as high command take command of high priority situations/major crime situations if needed and we'll, should be the first ones dying when they're supposed to be giving out orders. I've put AWPs on as I and other high command generally use them quite often and well it also costs a lot for us. As high command we also host/command a few situations that require these forces. Other departments such as SWAT have several classes some for snipers, breaching or pointman but we don't get anything like that so we have a short,mid and long range weapon + sidearm and shotgun. The reason we have added is MP5's is it's an easier way to control officers shooting without spending our lives hosting training after training. MP5s aren't very op so the only "op" classess would be high command. Saying that, it's only the most of 5 out of a few thousand people that have this status and equipment in PD. The first draft was a lot more op but we posted it to public to see their opinions on the topic. I'm not saying the MP5s are going to be over powered, I'm saying what you're doing to PD command is over powered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
October Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 @noot notice how all high command has KF2’s and novas, how do I sign up? +plus plus + support. This list is more organized and I feel it is better than the current one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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