David Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 What do you want to see? Players want to reverse the rule of being unable to inventory holster the KF2, Dual KF2, and MP5SD. These guns are infamous for being very private and have a reputation for insanely excellent killing. According to the Custom Job Format, 64% is how many guns are playable in-game by everybody (including criminal and government differences), 46% is how many are not, and 3 of that 46% is 6%. Note: Around 164 total weapons in the game counted (this is out of date, and yes, of course, SMT is busy), 16 for criminal and government difference, and 36 for not allowed, and I am asking for 3. Why should we add it? Players want fun guns. The suggested strategy encourages longer server sessions and enhances the player experience. The suggestion meets server standards because Gaminglight PoliceRP is a semi-serious role-play server. What are the advantages of having this? Active/Semi-Active players play more due to being able to buy, sell, or keep the KF2, Dual KF2, and the MP5SD—incentivizing players to experience more game-play, collect, and use as role-play cosmetics (for example). Who is it mainly for? This improvement suggestion intends for the entire community. Links to any content, https://gaminglight.com/forums/articles.html/rules/policerp-rules/, https://gaminglight.com/forums/topic/52687-policerp-custom-job-format/ 1 RETIRED! Ex 2iC of Shadow Legacy Ex S.W.A.T. Co-Commander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scor Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 +support When I receive one of these 3 guns, I protect them with my life and it's kinda discouraging when I lose one of the guns by dying a silly way OR only being able to use these guns until restart. If this is accepted, I think it's only fair if they raise the prices of these guns since they will be able to be holstered (Just by a little bit). Also, just to say; these guns have a reputation for doing a decent amount of damage (as you stated) but it's also because of the fact that you cannot holster them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 27 minutes ago, Scor said: +support When I receive one of these 3 guns, I protect them with my life and it's kinda discouraging when I lose one of the guns by dying a silly way OR only being able to use these guns until restart. If this is accepted, I think it's only fair if they raise the prices of these guns since they will be able to be holstered (Just by a little bit). Also, just to say; these guns have a reputation for doing a decent amount of damage (as you stated) but it's also because of the fact that you cannot holster them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matilda Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 -Support These weapons are very powerful and should not be something that you should be able to holster. You have to understand that the MP5SD and the Dual KF2 are given out to Deputy Commissioner+ which is a very hard rank to achieve and those weapons shouldn't be easily accessible because of the weapon stats. Besides I don't think you understand what it would do to the overall pvp experience on the server and over time those weapons are going to be more common. In the end I know you're talking about longer sessions but who would log off with a weapon that they can't holster and that they also spent about 65mil on? 1 - PoliceRP Lead Admin & Mayonnaise lover - FBI Director 1K-21 | HRT Overseer | UMC LVL 5 Reserves: Trooper MAJ | CERT 2LT | State Head FTO | EMS LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Matilda said: In the end I know you're talking about longer sessions but who would log off with a weapon that they can't holster and that they also spent about 65mil on? -Support PD MSGT, Ex D5 SFTO MSGT Im back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntR Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Matilda said: -Support These weapons are very powerful and should not be something that you should be able to holster. You have to understand that the MP5SD and the Dual KF2 are given out to Deputy Commissioner+ which is a very hard rank to achieve and those weapons shouldn't be easily accessible because of the weapon stats. Besides I don't think you understand what it would do to the overall pvp experience on the server and over time those weapons are going to be more common. In the end I know you're talking about longer sessions but who would log off with a weapon that they can't holster and that they also spent about 65mil on? -Support while it’s a nice idea in theory let’s be realistic. People will abuse the invholster command with these guns and cause a massive problem. These guns are crazy OP and I’d rather not have them destroying everyone all the time everyday all day. Hunt: Former: Shadow Legacy Senior Command | S.W.A.T | PD Command | State Command | C.E.R.T Command | FBI | SRT | E.M.S Command Former: Administrator for Police RP | Forums Diplomat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scor Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 43 minutes ago, HuntR said: -Support while it’s a nice idea in theory let’s be realistic. People will abuse the invholster command with these guns and cause a massive problem. These guns are crazy OP and I’d rather not have them destroying everyone all the time everyday all day. I’m sure if that happens staff will deal with it. I don’t think it will be everyday with these weapons since they’re rare. If you look at the SMT store logs in the discord you can kind of point out the time frame of when the weapons come out. For example the MP5SD had a length of 5 days in between (also there's only a limit of 2; meaning only 2 people can buy it). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scor said: I’m sure if that happens, the staff will deal with it. I don’t think it will be every day with these weapons since they’re rare. If you look at the SMT store logs in the discord, you can point out the time frame of when the weapons come out. For example, the MP5SD had a length of 5 days in between (also there's only a limit of 2; meaning only 2 people can buy it). Good idea, making the weapon max sell count per time would help determine the economy balancing. Edited May 11, 2023 by David 1 RETIRED! Ex 2iC of Shadow Legacy Ex S.W.A.T. Co-Commander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTime Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Scor said: +support When I receive one of these 3 guns, I protect them with my life and it's kinda discouraging when I lose one of the guns by dying a silly way OR only being able to use these guns until restart. If this is accepted, I think it's only fair if they raise the prices of these guns since they will be able to be holstered (Just by a little bit). Also, just to say; these guns have a reputation for doing a decent amount of damage (as you stated) but it's also because of the fact that you cannot holster them. 13 hours ago, Matilda said: -Support These weapons are very powerful and should not be something that you should be able to holster. You have to understand that the MP5SD and the Dual KF2 are given out to Deputy Commissioner+ which is a very hard rank to achieve and those weapons shouldn't be easily accessible because of the weapon stats. Besides I don't think you understand what it would do to the overall pvp experience on the server and over time those weapons are going to be more common. In the end I know you're talking about longer sessions but who would log off with a weapon that they can't holster and that they also spent about 65mil on? Neutral however leaning more towards + support Edited May 11, 2023 by RussTime Current Ranks I hold: ImperialRP: Super Admin / JMT, Senior Forum Diplomat, Support Advisor, Shock VCMDR SK385, DT MAJ RU8 / TI-23 F16, IC SGM / Riggs, IQ App. II PoliceRP: PD Deputy Chief 1K-4, SL Boss (Family Head), State CPT 1H05, CERT TL 1TL01, FBI AD RA13, HRT CPT LC2, DF CPL 1U21 Reserves: SRT MAJ 1X33, EMS Chief Car 1 Ex ImperialRP: Super Admin / JMT, Senior Forum Diplomat, DT VCMDR RU8/ TI-23 L21, 69th/ MC VCMDR, first ever ParaRescue Lead Marshal and last ever Rescue Squadron Marshal, Lord I, Purge CPL, IC CSVL SSS DME 2LT Maroon, Shock SPC/ SGT/ MSGT, K2S8 SK385, Pyke Muscle II JSR RussTime Discord DMs are always open (russtime) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecott Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) +/- Support Its no harm in allowing you to inv-holster these weapons and have them used when u want to then a 1 time use on them weather u previously brought them from a SMT Store or the New SMT Shop NPC but of course still enforcing the inv-holstering rule when in combat and what not or maybe make it you can only use these said weapons "KF2, Dual KF2 & MP5SD" whilst on GOV when u buy them and not allowed to use them on Criminal jobs. But then you can argue how is that fair if Gov can use them and shred Criminals with these said weapons but Criminals cant, but these weapons are earned when u acquire them ofc only Deputy Commissioner+ has access to the Dual KF2's & the MP5SD but the Regular KF2 is for only Department Heads of Departments/Commanders of TAC Departments which is special and unique for them to have, I feel like if then criminals can obtain and use these said weapons then defeats the purpose to a certain extent of these Rare Weapons novelty worn off, of that Department Heads/TAC Commanders have of their KF2's as well as the Deputy Commissioner having the Dual KF2's & MP5SD etc. Overall I would lean to +support this idea but somehow implying to what I just said ^^ Edited May 16, 2023 by Ecott 1 DF Commander | CERT Commander | Gaming Light Legend | Mr Top Donator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 11 hours ago, Ecott said: +/- Support Its no harm in allowing you to inv-holster these weapons and have them used when u want to then a 1 time use on them weather u previously brought them from a SMT Store or the New SMT Shop NPC but of course still enforcing the inv-holstering rule when in combat and what not or maybe make it you can only use these said weapons "KF2, Dual KF2 & MP5SD" whilst on GOV when u buy them and not allowed to use them on Criminal jobs. But then you can argue how is that fair if Gov can use them and shred Criminals with these said weapons but Criminals cant, but these weapons are earned when u acquire them ofc only Deputy Commissioner+ has access to the Dual KF2's & the MP5SD but the Regular KF2 is for only Department Heads of Departments/Commanders of TAC Departments which is special and unique for them to have, I feel like if then criminals can obtain and use these said weapons then defeats the purpose to a certain extent of these Rare Weapons novelty worn off, of that Department Heads/TAC Commanders have of their KF2's as well as the Deputy Commissioner having the Dual KF2's & MP5SD etc. Overall I would lean to +support this idea but somehow implying to what I just said ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saraqael Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) On 5/11/2023 at 1:39 AM, Scor said: +support When I receive one of these 3 guns, I protect them with my life and it's kinda discouraging when I lose one of the guns by dying a silly way OR only being able to use these guns until restart. If this is accepted, I think it's only fair if they raise the prices of these guns since they will be able to be holstered (Just by a little bit). Also, just to say; these guns have a reputation for doing a decent amount of damage (as you stated) but it's also because of the fact that you cannot holster them. I agree and I think that the guns are overly priced, and for this should be able to be holstered. Edited May 20, 2023 by Azrael_ ~ Shadow ~ Azrael ~ Saraqael Military RP Beginnings Veteran GL 11-Year Veteran "The Last Remaining Spetsnaz" Former Wardog Super Admin / Admin MilitaryRP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share Posted May 20, 2023 50 million limits the number of people that could buy one. This has its benefits and negatives. 1 RETIRED! Ex 2iC of Shadow Legacy Ex S.W.A.T. Co-Commander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniEpic Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 On 5/11/2023 at 2:15 AM, Matilda said: -Support These weapons are very powerful and should not be something that you should be able to holster. You have to understand that the MP5SD and the Dual KF2 are given out to Deputy Commissioner+ which is a very hard rank to achieve and those weapons shouldn't be easily accessible because of the weapon stats. Besides I don't think you understand what it would do to the overall pvp experience on the server and over time those weapons are going to be more common. In the end I know you're talking about longer sessions but who would log off with a weapon that they can't holster and that they also spent about 65mil on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganta Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 On 5/11/2023 at 2:15 AM, Matilda said: -Support These weapons are very powerful and should not be something that you should be able to holster. You have to understand that the MP5SD and the Dual KF2 are given out to Deputy Commissioner+ which is a very hard rank to achieve and those weapons shouldn't be easily accessible because of the weapon stats. Besides I don't think you understand what it would do to the overall pvp experience on the server and over time those weapons are going to be more common. In the end I know you're talking about longer sessions but who would log off with a weapon that they can't holster and that they also spent about 65mil on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drippy Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Denied. The SMT team for this server has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. PoliceRP - Retired Manager Retired SWAT Commander | UMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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